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Old 27th November 2005, 02:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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9.63s allmotor

on the 23rd of november 2005 skunk2's acura rsx ran a 9.63 second quarter mile but no mph was given.
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Old 27th November 2005, 10:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think it was the 23rd of October.. And it was actually project Beta not project Delta.. So it was actually there 1996 Acura Integra powered with a close to 400whp K24-20 hybrid.. It ran a 9.63 @ 141mph. 1st pass was under weight the 2nd time it ran the 9.63 it was on the weight limit.
The 2003 RSX Skunk 2 have which is project Delta has a P.B. of 9.86 @ 141mph.
Dr. Charles there cheif mechanic beleives the Integra will go faster than the RSX...
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Old 27th November 2005, 10:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That's so sick. I love all-motor :thumbsup:
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Old 28th November 2005, 07:33 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I think it was the 23rd of October.. And it was actually project Beta not project Delta.. So it was actually there 1996 Acura Integra powered with a close to 400whp K24-20 hybrid.. It ran a 9.63 @ 141mph. 1st pass was under weight the 2nd time it ran the 9.63 it was on the weight limit.
The 2003 RSX Skunk 2 have which is project Delta has a P.B. of 9.86 @ 141mph.
Dr. Charles there cheif mechanic beleives the Integra will go faster than the RSX...
Sorry, slight hijack going on here...

Does anyone remember when Project Beta first appeared and was a silver road-racer with a 260hp B16A in it? It used to run low 12s @ circa 110mph and would often battle against Jeremy Lookofsky's H22-powered EF CRX for the world's NA Honda title. My, how things have progressed in the last 6 years...
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Old 28th November 2005, 07:58 AM   #5 (permalink)
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That's so sick. I love all-motor :thumbsup:
Too right!

So how much would an engine like that retail for? ;p
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Old 28th November 2005, 08:00 AM   #6 (permalink)
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So how much would an engine like that retail for? ;p
More than you can afford pal. Ferrari. LOL
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Old 28th November 2005, 08:03 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Wow that is truly amazing!!!
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Old 28th November 2005, 08:19 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Does anyone remember when Project Beta first appeared and was a silver road-racer with a 260hp B16A in it? It used to run low 12s @ circa 110mph and would often battle against Jeremy Lookofsky's H22-powered EF CRX for the world's NA Honda title. My, how things have progressed in the last 6 years...
Yeah man I remember Tony Shagday vs. Jeremy Lookofsky was legendary.



http://www.nhrasportcompact.com/2005...t_shagday.html
http://www.nhrasportcompact.com/2005...Lookofsky.html
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Old 28th November 2005, 08:20 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Suprisily enought they have one of the motors for sale for about $12k US I think with no manifolds..
but to build one here is a simple costing.. this is retail...
ERL sleeved Brand New K24 CRV block. $2500 US
CP pistons 15.7:1 $1000 US
Titanium Pauter rods or something simliar, custom length, custom bearing and piston pin sizes $1000 US each..
Custom oil squirters, custom oil pump $xxx
Custom stroked K24 crank, oversized bearing journals etc $2500US
Custom CNC machined & ported K20A head $1500US suppling a head
Skunk 2 Pro spec cams $ not publicly avaiable
Skunk 2 cam gears $
plus all the extra little bit to hold it together...

To build a motor that will make 300-350whp you can spend about $15,000nz to do it, IF you know the right people... Since you can buy a half built motor direct from ERL that comes with everything except the head, but it only has factory crank and bearing sizes..they retail for around $10,000nz landed. Then there is all the extra head work involved in making it all work..

But then for a team like Skunk 2 you also have a $15,000 US 6spd squential gbox behind the motor, 10yrs of chassis development, a huge backing, 2 cars running the same spec motor, a spare 10 motors per event..
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Old 28th November 2005, 08:25 AM   #10 (permalink)
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sorry the motor is only 8500 us
http://www.skunk2.com/raceShop/garageSale.html
here is the page link for the spec's if you wanna buy it..
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Old 28th November 2005, 08:31 AM   #11 (permalink)
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*puts down his piggy bank*

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I wish, but then if it broke, that'd be the end of it as i'd have no money left
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Old 28th November 2005, 11:33 AM   #12 (permalink)
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15.7:1 .... god damn I feel sorry for the tuner + that must be some amazing gas
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Old 28th November 2005, 11:58 AM   #13 (permalink)
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15.7:1 can be run on anything higher than C12 really. can be lower but not really recommended..
Persoanally I feel for the starter motor.... thats alot of compression to turn over...
K-series you can buy these pistons off the shelf at the moment..
9.5:1, 10:1, 10.5:1 11:1, 11.5:1, 12.5:1, 13.5:1, 15.7:1
but you can get others made in between if you feel like it..

The skunk 2 cars are rumoured to have dyno'd at 398whp, running 54mm TWM ITB's
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Old 28th November 2005, 12:32 PM   #14 (permalink)
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But then for a team like Skunk 2 you also have a $15,000 US 6spd squential gbox behind the motor, 10yrs of chassis development, a huge backing, 2 cars running the same spec motor, a spare 10 motors per event..
Are you being for real or exadurating?10 motors per event?
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Are you being for real or exadurating?10 motors per event?
I don't think Gary is saying they use 10 motors per event, but they have them on standby if need be.
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Old 28th November 2005, 05:14 PM   #16 (permalink)
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They have run an event where one of the cars used a new motor every run.. 8O so 2-3 qualifiers then 1-4 elimantion runs...
They dont destroy them they just check everything out.. the motors rev to around 11,000 which is pretty insane by any imagination..
The top import teams are on the same level of racing as the top V8 teams, rebuilding engines between runs etc..
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Old 28th November 2005, 05:20 PM   #17 (permalink)
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They have run an event where one of the cars used a new motor every run.. 8O so 2-3 qualifiers then 1-4 elimantion runs...
They dont destroy them they just check everything out.. the motors rev to around 11,000 which is pretty insane by any imagination..
The top import teams are on the same level of racing as the top V8 teams, rebuilding engines between runs etc..
Usually its just mainly the seals and everything else just gets checked... I was watching a short clip on some of the top fuel dragsters.... they have mental amounts of money to waste!!!!
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Old 28th November 2005, 05:33 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Impressive. I wonder if and how long before 8's are on the cards?
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Old 28th November 2005, 05:38 PM   #19 (permalink)
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personally I think 8's will be next season or the one following for the top teams.
The turbo guys are set to run 6's next season and they really need to given the FWD and RWD top class's are being combined in 2007 I think.. GM ran a 7.12 @ 187mph backing off due to the guy in the other lane loosing it.. they have run over 202mph in there FWD.. so given the new set-up I think we might see a mid-high 6 FWD next season..
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Does anyone remember when Project Beta first appeared and was a silver road-racer with a 260hp B16A in it? It used to run low 12s @ circa 110mph and would often battle against Jeremy Lookofsky's H22-powered EF CRX for the world's NA Honda title. My, how things have progressed in the last 6 years...
haha, getting nostalgic again are we Jimmayyyy? We used to fantasize about the Lookofsky CRX.

I remember calling and speaking to Dr Charles on the phone waaaaay back when I was planning the H22 swap into the EK. Back then he was the only person in SoCal to have attempted the swap, I thiiink it was in an EG. He was nuts.

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Awsome, whats he a Docter of, anyone no? Mechanics? Engineering?
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Awsome, whats he a Docter of, anyone no? Mechanics? Engineering?
hah, AFAIK he doesn't actually hold a doctorate in anything. It's just a nickname.
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Old 29th November 2005, 01:44 AM   #24 (permalink)
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They have run an event where one of the cars used a new motor every run.. 8O so 2-3 qualifiers then 1-4 elimantion runs...
They dont destroy them they just check everything out.. the motors rev to around 11,000 which is pretty insane by any imagination..
The top import teams are on the same level of racing as the top V8 teams, rebuilding engines between runs etc..
Tell me to f off if im asking to much here but what are you revíng to in comparison gary? Just interested PM if needed.
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Old 29th November 2005, 07:25 AM   #25 (permalink)
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My car gets rev'd to 9000rpm. I have run to 10,000 on the dyno before but not on the current motor..
With the cam profiles i run i was still making power past 10k on the old motor as it had higher compression. where as with the current motor I'm making 180wkw at 7300 and 185wkw at 9000.
My next motor I will possibly rev to 9500 depending on the opinion of my engine builder
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