Any Feedback?

cubic · 14th May 2002, 06:12 PM

One of my letters got printed in the Herald today, and as part of putting off doing my maths assignment, I was wondering what you guys thought of it. It's not my best letter, but I wanted to know how it came across? It went something like this:

As the driver of a modified vehicle I am as deeply concerned by the shooting of a “Boy racer” on Saturday night as I am the impetus it has added to Clayton Cosgrove’s proposal to allow Police the power to seize vehicles at their discretion. The Police in this country simply are not trained sufficiently to wield this power.

This law needs to have very precise conditions under which a vehicle can be confiscated as all too often the perception of events of a bystander are inaccurate. When does taking off quickly from a traffic light become racing? Will simple speeding now be classed as racing, if you are in a modified car? What sort of evidence will the Police need in order to prove someone was racing and sell their car?

In the majority of traffic violations the only evidence is the testimony of the officer issuing the ticket. Is this really sufficient proof to seize and sell property, often worth tens of thousands of dollars? Officers on patrol on a Friday and Saturday night will encounter many vehicles committing infringements, can they be relied upon to remember the exact details of a specific event when it comes to court?

Perhaps this law will discourage young people from taking their cars out on a Saturday night. Maybe they should take up drinking instead.

PS. Positive feedback would be the most productive, but feel free to say you didn't like it if you can say why.

MikeE · 14th May 2002, 06:34 PM

good stuff, good to see yours and the other letter in the herald.

Cement · 14th May 2002, 07:01 PM

Thats awesome stuff man

More objective views like that might make a few people think twice aye.

Two thumbs up

cam · 14th May 2002, 07:02 PM

Yeah that was a great letter Cubic, very articulate and had just the right amount of sarcasm.
Nice work

UR2FAT · 14th May 2002, 07:05 PM

Well done man. :!:

STR8LN · 14th May 2002, 07:22 PM

Notice that in the Herald, damn good effort so big ups yourself as Ali G would say.

It was good to see that for once the Herald showed "the other side" of an argument.

pxpx · 14th May 2002, 09:20 PM

Good stuff man.. a good family friend of mine is well known to JB - I shall get that letter noticed!

plutoniumman · 14th May 2002, 09:29 PM

Your on the money man! Man i wish i could be assed writing a letter, maybe i will cos i like writing essays putting my points forward. But like you i have assignments. Maybe i will write one tomorow at uni!

cubic · 14th May 2002, 09:48 PM

It doesn't take that long to whack out a letter, and with online submission you just have to type it up in Word and spell and grammar check (PLEASE at least spell check it, although the Herald probably does this for you) and then cut and paste it onto the webpage. Easy as, and then your voice may get heard!

bizski · 15th May 2002, 08:05 AM

great letter bud. great points and i hope that the points are taken into consideration when this law or 'police gangbang' is decided..
hmm yea .good stuff.

BWDOWN · 15th May 2002, 10:54 AM

Good effort Cubic, glad to hear that you put this before ya maths

dethy · 15th May 2002, 11:20 AM

yea, great stuff mate

1CoOlBaBe · 15th May 2002, 12:57 PM

That was primo

I reckon you should email your letter to the mp's

You get alot of response and your opinion influences the mps votes in the long run

cubic · 15th May 2002, 01:02 PM

By the looks of your letter from the Greens, Ana, the bill is going to get stalled and not passed until after the election, by which time no-one will care about us anymore, andit will just be another broken election promise!

Still, I think it's a good idea to go ahead with improving our image to the general image to the public, or at least distance ourselves from the street racer crowd.

MarkNZ · 15th May 2002, 03:40 PM

hey well done Cubic for getting your letter in the paper. Just to prove that not everyone is against us, i think you should check out todays Herald. It has 2 of the 3 letters on the 'boyracer' issue on our side, although admitingly they seem more concerned with public rights etc and the fact that NZ should not become a policed state.

14th May 2002, 06:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
cubic Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,381 Location: Outside NZ: Other	Any Feedback? One of my letters got printed in the Herald today, and as part of putting off doing my maths assignment, I was wondering what you guys thought of it. It's not my best letter, but I wanted to know how it came across? It went something like this: As the driver of a modified vehicle I am as deeply concerned by the shooting of a “Boy racer” on Saturday night as I am the impetus it has added to Clayton Cosgrove’s proposal to allow Police the power to seize vehicles at their discretion. The Police in this country simply are not trained sufficiently to wield this power. This law needs to have very precise conditions under which a vehicle can be confiscated as all too often the perception of events of a bystander are inaccurate. When does taking off quickly from a traffic light become racing? Will simple speeding now be classed as racing, if you are in a modified car? What sort of evidence will the Police need in order to prove someone was racing and sell their car? In the majority of traffic violations the only evidence is the testimony of the officer issuing the ticket. Is this really sufficient proof to seize and sell property, often worth tens of thousands of dollars? Officers on patrol on a Friday and Saturday night will encounter many vehicles committing infringements, can they be relied upon to remember the exact details of a specific event when it comes to court? Perhaps this law will discourage young people from taking their cars out on a Saturday night. Maybe they should take up drinking instead. PS. Positive feedback would be the most productive, but feel free to say you didn't like it if you can say why. __________________ The internet has so far disproved the theory that a million monkeys sitting at a million typewriters would eventually produce the works of Shakespeare.

14th May 2002, 09:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
plutoniumman Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,309	Your on the money man! Man i wish i could be assed writing a letter, maybe i will cos i like writing essays putting my points forward. But like you i have assignments. Maybe i will write one tomorow at uni! __________________ Bitch = female dog

14th May 2002, 09:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
cubic Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,381 Location: Outside NZ: Other	It doesn't take that long to whack out a letter, and with online submission you just have to type it up in Word and spell and grammar check (PLEASE at least spell check it, although the Herald probably does this for you) and then cut and paste it onto the webpage. Easy as, and then your voice may get heard! __________________ The internet has so far disproved the theory that a million monkeys sitting at a million typewriters would eventually produce the works of Shakespeare.

15th May 2002, 08:05 AM	#10 (permalink)
bizski Senior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 118	great letter bud. great points and i hope that the points are taken into consideration when this law or 'police gangbang' is decided.. hmm yea .good stuff. __________________ Beat on a brat.. good old vtec. integra xsi.

15th May 2002, 10:54 AM	#11 (permalink)
BWDOWN Team NZH: Mod 11,000rpm (Spoon B16B!!) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 8,118 Location: Christchurch	Good effort Cubic, glad to hear that you put this before ya maths __________________ Hybrid Theory -=- LSVTEC EK9 & B20VTEC EF9 My Profile

14th May 2002, 06:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
MikeE Senior Member 3,000rpm (Grandma Drag) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 464 Location: Auckland	good stuff, good to see yours and the other letter in the herald.

14th May 2002, 07:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cement Team NZH: Retired 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,686	Thats awesome stuff man More objective views like that might make a few people think twice aye. Two thumbs up

14th May 2002, 07:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
cam Senior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 118	Yeah that was a great letter Cubic, very articulate and had just the right amount of sarcasm. Nice work

14th May 2002, 07:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
UR2FAT Senior Member 8,000rpm (B Series Redline!) Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,031 Location: Hamilton	Well done man. :!:

14th May 2002, 07:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
STR8LN Team NZH: Mod 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,103	Notice that in the Herald, damn good effort so big ups yourself as Ali G would say. It was good to see that for once the Herald showed "the other side" of an argument.

14th May 2002, 09:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
pxpx Team NZH: Mod 8,000rpm (B Series Redline!) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,680 Location: Auckland	Good stuff man.. a good family friend of mine is well known to JB - I shall get that letter noticed!

15th May 2002, 11:20 AM	#12 (permalink)
dethy Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 555 Location: Auckland	yea, great stuff mate

15th May 2002, 12:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
1CoOlBaBe Senior Member 3,000rpm (Grandma Drag) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 302	That was primo I reckon you should email your letter to the mp's You get alot of response and your opinion influences the mps votes in the long run __________________ mmm... pitishhhhhhhh!! YoYo ThiS mY MoToKaR

15th May 2002, 01:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
cubic Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,381 Location: Outside NZ: Other	By the looks of your letter from the Greens, Ana, the bill is going to get stalled and not passed until after the election, by which time no-one will care about us anymore, andit will just be another broken election promise! Still, I think it's a good idea to go ahead with improving our image to the general image to the public, or at least distance ourselves from the street racer crowd. __________________ The internet has so far disproved the theory that a million monkeys sitting at a million typewriters would eventually produce the works of Shakespeare.

15th May 2002, 03:40 PM	#15 (permalink)
MarkNZ Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,975 Location: Outside NZ: United Kingdom	hey well done Cubic for getting your letter in the paper. Just to prove that not everyone is against us, i think you should check out todays Herald. It has 2 of the 3 letters on the 'boyracer' issue on our side, although admitingly they seem more concerned with public rights etc and the fact that NZ should not become a policed state.

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