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| Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Jul 2007
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Location: Timaru | could we get a howto section? as title sugestes(sp) instead of doing a big links page, get people to post there own? or others they may have stolen? would stop repeat questions for somethings, if thats been asked before its because i did a search but it didnt return anything |
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| Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) | Re: could we get a howto section? Well we kinda already have this, it's called tech help forum ![]()
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| Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Jul 2007
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Location: Timaru | Re: could we get a howto section? i ment more like this.. Swap your Drums for si Discs!! If you want the better stopping power of 4 wheel disc brakes but don't have them on your DX, LX or EX?? Here is an easy Mod to upgrade your Civic to the level of the si! Forget spending $1200 for the AEM 96-00 Civic EX Rear Disc Brake Conversion Kit, here is a way to get the disc you want and keep an OEM look to your ride and for far less money too!! I picked up the rear disc brakes and suspension brackets off a wrecked 93' Del Sol si for $200 at J&B Salvage in Orlando, Fl. The front end of the Sol was hit but the back was untouched. I was looking for the 99-00 Civic si rear brakes but the 93-97 Del Sol si Civic will work too. With the Del Sol brakes you will just need to buy the 99-00 Civic si parking brake cables ($70) to complete the swap. Everything else will just bolt onto the 5th or 6th gen Civic!!! ![]() Here are the trailing arms, upper control arms, discs, calipers and parking brake cables cleaned up and ready to install. Time frame for this mod should between 4 to 8 hours depending on your tools, space and any problem bolts! This is on the same skill level as installing shocks, headers or cam shaft. For this swap there are some pre-swap prep details that need to be done and supplies to be purchased before you can start the job:
![]() Prep the new disc brakes for installation. Clean up the new calipers with brake cleaner and mount new pads, shims and apply Anti-Squeal to pads. I also applied Anti-Seize to all bolts for easy removal later on. Tighten to specs. This would be also a good time to paint the calipers while off your car if you like to. Due to heat of brakes use Brake Caliper paint or 1200-degree engine enamel. Brakes heat up in excess of 900-degrees. ![]() ![]() ![]() Now start with the parking brake cable. You’ll need to remove one of the front seats and center parking brake trim. Pull carpet from under rear seat forward to access the parking brake lock nuts. Disconnect both from parking handle and push rubber gasket and wires down into car. Now underneath there are a few bolts that secure the cable to the body. You may have to move part of exhaust head shield to access some bolts. Use a 10mm wrench to loosen brake line on car from the hose to drum. Use the rubber bleeder nipple to cover brake hose on car. Otherwise this will leak and you may have to bleed your entire brake system. Careful not to get brake fluid on your hands and then on your painted surface ![]() Start with the one 14mm bolt at the front of the trailing arm, remove (Pic 1). Use Liquid Wrench on frozen bolts. Next there are 2 - 17mm bolts (see pic 2) that support the trailing arm in a center bushing. Remove bolts. Use a jack stand to support the arm from below near shocks. ![]() ![]() ![]() Next remove the bottom 14mm bolt that connects the trailing arm to the lower control arm. Finally remove the top 14mm trailing arm bolt that connect to top support bracket. The trailing arm is now free and unsecured from car. I left the top shorter control arm on my Civic to reduce the chance of decreased handling issues since the parts were from the smaller Del Sol. ![]() Caution - Use a jack stand to support trailing arm. This arm with brake drum weights over 50lbs so be careful when removing that last bolt. Now if your calipers are dry from painting and pads are mounted you can now install the new arm with disc brake. Install the 5 bolts in the reverse order of removal. Again I applied Anti-Seize to the bolts and tighten to torque specs. These are the bolts that will be adjusted during a thrust angle alignment for the back end. ![]() Rerun parking brake cable thru holding bolts underneath and into cars interior. Attach to parking brake hand lever and adjust tension so that you have 4-6 clicks on handle till it stops firmly. ![]() Reconnect brake line to caliper hose and tighten. RECHECK all bolts for tightness. Now you need to bleed the brake system. Follow normal instructions for bleeding brake system properly. Bleed line enough to flush all old brake fluid from hose and caliper and remove all air bubbles. I pushed about 8oz of clean fluid thru each line to ensure firm braking power and any sludge or dirt is gone. 4 to 6 brake pedal pushes could drain your master cylinder so watch the level closely and refill often (pic 3). Once all bubble are gone tighten bleeder screw and mount wheel back onto car ![]() ![]() ![]() Caution: Do not drive past 10mph and or on public roads till you have tested stopping power of brakes completely!!! Test Drive car : Slowly move car and test brakes for stopping power. Test in forward and reverse motions; listen for squeals, chatter and any smell of grabbing brakes. Test parking brake for holding power and handle and also loose play. Once brakes have been tests on a closed road, test on the main roads and high way speeds; give yourself extra stopping room. Disc will fell different and stop differently then your drums so take it easy till you get the feel for them. Also find a hill to test parking brake holding power on. Understand that this brake upgrade is a major suspension modification that CAN and WILL affect your cars handling and ride. Get a professional 4 wheel and thrust angle alignment done ASAP, this will ensure your safety and others on the road around you!! |
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| Senior Member 11,000rpm (Spoon B16B!!) Join Date: Apr 2006
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Location: Auckland | Re: could we get a howto section? we already have stickied threads for this very reason.....This that you just posted could be a good one...(if its not already !!) I dont think we need a special thing for it.
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| Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Aug 2005
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Location: Wellington | Re: could we get a howto section? there are heaps of writeups in the Tech section already aren't there? you can find them through search... but it would be easier to have them all in one place too ![]() |
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| Senior Member 11,000rpm (Spoon B16B!!) Join Date: Apr 2006
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Location: Auckland | Re: could we get a howto section? once again they are, all in the stickys at the top of the section ![]() *example* Tech Help: Threads of interest
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| Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Jul 2007
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Location: New Plymouth | Re: could we get a howto section? Would be nice to have a section like this, But it would have to be by mod add only and follow a strict layout plan to make it easy to follow. |
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| Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Sep 2006
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Location: Auckland | Re: could we get a howto section? i reckon it would be good if we had a section that had pictures (or videos) that show you how to lower an eg sedan(as an example). but it would involve a lot of participation though. i think its a good idea |
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| Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Jul 2007
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Location: Timaru | Re: could we get a howto section? well there more just stolen and edited ie if i get it off hondatech i usually remove all the peoples comments saying cool etc and add random q & a's that are thru the pages if you want any this is what ive got... ![]() Last edited by mr_tec; 24th June 2008 at 11:24 PM. |
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| Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) | Re: could we get a howto section? another idea - bmgjet fixes his damn sig so the page doesnt elongate evrytime he posts on a standard sized pc screen. or is this just me?
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| Senior Member 18,000rpm+ Honda F1! | Re: could we get a howto section? if ur going to post up a how to thats been taken from another site at least be courteous enough to include the original link with it. maybe have a stickied thread up by the TOI's that has all the HOW TO's or DIY's in it will make things less cluttered and keep all the threads for each forum in one place |
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| Senior Member 11,000rpm (Spoon B16B!!) Join Date: Apr 2006
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Location: Auckland | Re: could we get a howto section? Quote:
it was pissing me off too.....seems to be fixed but has gone longways now ![]()
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| Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Jul 2007
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Location: Timaru | Re: could we get a howto section? Quote:
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| Senior Member 9,000rpm (S2000 Redline!) Join Date: May 2005
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Location: Hamilton | Re: could we get a howto section? ^^ looks fine for me 1280 x 1024. It is gay though. Sure the section you speak of has it's merits but what happened to doing some hard work and finding out/experimenting and putting in some of a persons own work to learn? Kinda seems everyone wants to be spoon fed everything. |
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| Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Jul 2007
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Location: Timaru | Re: could we get a howto section? i had a better idea due to my feedback on them i just wont do em' credit would of been granted where credit was due ie i only had the nzintegra link so it was given |
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