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Old 23rd June 2008, 12:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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could we get a howto section?

as title sugestes(sp) instead of doing a big links page, get people to post there own? or others they may have stolen? would stop repeat questions for somethings,

if thats been asked before its because i did a search but it didnt return anything
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Old 23rd June 2008, 05:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: could we get a howto section?

Well we kinda already have this, it's called tech help forum
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Old 23rd June 2008, 11:56 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: could we get a howto section?

you mean step-by-step with pictures?

if it nothing comes of it, try RANGIMODS
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Old 23rd June 2008, 06:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: could we get a howto section?

i ment more like this..

Swap your Drums for si Discs!!
If you want the better stopping power of 4 wheel disc brakes but don't have them on your DX, LX or EX?? Here is an easy Mod to upgrade your Civic to the level of the si! Forget spending $1200 for the AEM 96-00 Civic EX Rear Disc Brake Conversion Kit, here is a way to get the disc you want and keep an OEM look to your ride and for far less money too!!
I picked up the rear disc brakes and suspension brackets off a wrecked 93' Del Sol si for $200 at J&B Salvage in Orlando, Fl. The front end of the Sol was hit but the back was untouched. I was looking for the 99-00 Civic si rear brakes but the 93-97 Del Sol si Civic will work too. With the Del Sol brakes you will just need to buy the 99-00 Civic si parking brake cables ($70) to complete the swap. Everything else will just bolt onto the 5th or 6th gen Civic!!!

Here are the trailing arms, upper control arms, discs, calipers and parking brake cables cleaned up and ready to install. Time frame for this mod should between 4 to 8 hours depending on your tools, space and any problem bolts! This is on the same skill level as installing shocks, headers or cam shaft.

For this swap there are some pre-swap prep details that need to be done and supplies to be purchased before you can start the job:
  • Have the rotors turned and minimum thickness run out checked. - $10 each
  • Buy new rear brake pads (your already down there anyway) - $12 set
  • Buy new Honda or DOT 3 brake fluid, at least 1 quart for bleeding of brakes. - $5
  • Buy disc brake quiet or anti-squeal (it’s blue and you need this) - $2
  • New rear pad shims (only if they are rusted or missing) - $16
  • Brake Cleaner spray - $3
  • Dupil-Color, Plasti-Kote high temp engine enamel or VHT caliper paint. You pick the colors
Okay first jack up your car onto stands and remove rear wheel. There are 5 bolts that hold the rear trailing arm onto your car, these and the parking brake cable and brake line need to be disconnected to swap the rear arm and brake unit

Prep the new disc brakes for installation. Clean up the new calipers with brake cleaner and mount new pads, shims and apply Anti-Squeal to pads. I also applied Anti-Seize to all bolts for easy removal later on. Tighten to specs. This would be also a good time to paint the calipers while off your car if you like to. Due to heat of brakes use Brake Caliper paint or 1200-degree engine enamel. Brakes heat up in excess of 900-degrees.




Now start with the parking brake cable. You’ll need to remove one of the front seats and center parking brake trim. Pull carpet from under rear seat forward to access the parking brake lock nuts. Disconnect both from parking handle and push rubber gasket and wires down into car. Now underneath there are a few bolts that secure the cable to the body. You may have to move part of exhaust head shield to access some bolts.
Use a 10mm wrench to loosen brake line on car from the hose to drum. Use the rubber bleeder nipple to cover brake hose on car. Otherwise this will leak and you may have to bleed your entire brake system. Careful not to get brake fluid on your hands and then on your painted surface

Start with the one 14mm bolt at the front of the trailing arm, remove (Pic 1). Use Liquid Wrench on frozen bolts. Next there are 2 - 17mm bolts (see pic 2) that support the trailing arm in a center bushing. Remove bolts. Use a jack stand to support the arm from below near shocks.



Next remove the bottom 14mm bolt that connects the trailing arm to the lower control arm. Finally remove the top 14mm trailing arm bolt that connect to top support bracket. The trailing arm is now free and unsecured from car. I left the top shorter control arm on my Civic to reduce the chance of decreased handling issues since the parts were from the smaller Del Sol.

Caution - Use a jack stand to support trailing arm. This arm with brake drum weights over 50lbs so be careful when removing that last bolt.

Now if your calipers are dry from painting and pads are mounted you can now install the new arm with disc brake. Install the 5 bolts in the reverse order of removal. Again I applied Anti-Seize to the bolts and tighten to torque specs. These are the bolts that will be adjusted during a thrust angle alignment for the back end.

Rerun parking brake cable thru holding bolts underneath and into cars interior. Attach to parking brake hand lever and adjust tension so that you have 4-6 clicks on handle till it stops firmly.

Reconnect brake line to caliper hose and tighten. RECHECK all bolts for tightness. Now you need to bleed the brake system. Follow normal instructions for bleeding brake system properly. Bleed line enough to flush all old brake fluid from hose and caliper and remove all air bubbles. I pushed about 8oz of clean fluid thru each line to ensure firm braking power and any sludge or dirt is gone. 4 to 6 brake pedal pushes could drain your master cylinder so watch the level closely and refill often (pic 3). Once all bubble are gone tighten bleeder screw and mount wheel back onto car



Caution: Do not drive past 10mph and or on public roads till you have tested stopping power of brakes completely!!!
Test Drive car
: Slowly move car and test brakes for stopping power.
Test in forward and reverse motions; listen for squeals, chatter and any smell of grabbing brakes. Test parking brake for holding power and handle and also loose play. Once brakes have been tests on a closed road, test on the main roads and high way speeds; give yourself extra stopping room. Disc will fell different and stop differently then your drums so take it easy till you get the feel for them. Also find a hill to test parking brake holding power on.
Understand that this brake upgrade is a major suspension modification that CAN and WILL affect your cars handling and ride. Get a professional 4 wheel and thrust angle alignment done ASAP, this will ensure your safety and others on the road around you!!
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Old 23rd June 2008, 07:53 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: could we get a howto section?

we already have stickied threads for this very reason.....This that you just posted could be a good one...(if its not already !!)

I dont think we need a special thing for it.
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Old 23rd June 2008, 08:17 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: could we get a howto section?

there are heaps of writeups in the Tech section already aren't there? you can find them through search... but it would be easier to have them all in one place too
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Old 23rd June 2008, 08:22 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: could we get a howto section?

once again they are, all in the stickys at the top of the section

*example*

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Old 23rd June 2008, 08:37 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: could we get a howto section?

That's a good write up, if you follow the instructions in the tech help thread you can get it tagged so people can find it easier.
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Old 23rd June 2008, 09:14 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: could we get a howto section?

Would be nice to have a section like this, But it would have to be by mod add only and follow a strict layout plan to make it easy to follow.
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Old 24th June 2008, 11:16 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: could we get a howto section?

i reckon it would be good if we had a section that had pictures (or videos) that show you how to lower an eg sedan(as an example). but it would involve a lot of participation though. i think its a good idea
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Old 24th June 2008, 11:29 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: could we get a howto section?

would you like me to post that up? lol

nah i has about 25 things from removing bumpers to yea
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Old 24th June 2008, 11:56 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: could we get a howto section?

yeh dude, if you work on your car a lot and have a camera then make some threads!
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Old 25th June 2008, 12:08 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: could we get a howto section?

well there more just stolen and edited ie if i get it off hondatech i usually remove all the peoples comments saying cool etc and add random q & a's that are thru the pages if you want any this is what ive got...

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Old 25th June 2008, 12:46 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: could we get a howto section?

those look MINT. I rekon that theres enough material to make a category (possibly a sub-category of tech-help)
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Old 25th June 2008, 12:49 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Re: could we get a howto section?

Mays well just link to H-T, Hondahookup, turbod, hondatech, and the rest.
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Old 25th June 2008, 01:33 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: could we get a howto section?

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Mays well just link to H-T, Hondahookup, turbod, hondatech, and the rest
there links + pics are mostly gone
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Old 25th June 2008, 01:42 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: could we get a howto section?

why not give it ago, you can post any thread you want. If its worthy then maybe itl get stickied
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Old 25th June 2008, 01:50 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: could we get a howto section?

yea i slowly starting see tech section
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Old 25th June 2008, 02:20 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: could we get a howto section?

another idea - bmgjet fixes his damn sig so the page doesnt elongate evrytime he posts on a standard sized pc screen.





or is this just me?
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Old 26th June 2008, 08:01 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Re: could we get a howto section?

if ur going to post up a how to thats been taken from another site at least be courteous enough to include the original link with it.

maybe have a stickied thread up by the TOI's that has all the HOW TO's or DIY's in it will make things less cluttered and keep all the threads for each forum in one place
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Old 26th June 2008, 08:07 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: could we get a howto section?

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another idea - bmgjet fixes his damn sig so the page doesnt elongate evrytime he posts on a standard sized pc screen.





or is this just me?

it was pissing me off too.....seems to be fixed but has gone longways now
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Old 26th June 2008, 08:22 PM   #22 (permalink)
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if ur going to post up a how to thats been taken from another site at least be courteous enough to include the original link with it.
problem is that the majority i have that are saved were edited too much along time ago hence no link, except for the nzintegras link as i think thats about the only one i have.
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Old 26th June 2008, 08:25 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: could we get a howto section?

^^ looks fine for me 1280 x 1024. It is gay though.


Sure the section you speak of has it's merits but what happened to doing some hard work and finding out/experimenting and putting in some of a persons own work to learn? Kinda seems everyone wants to be spoon fed everything.
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Old 26th June 2008, 11:06 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Re: could we get a howto section?

i had a better idea due to my feedback on them

i just wont do em'

credit would of been granted where credit was due ie i only had the nzintegra link so it was given
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