Just Wondering....

[EVLTEK FBI AKL]

Just wondering the reasoning behinds this sites "up tightness"
Don't get me wrong it is great and vary functional and I have enjoyed beung part of it for the last couple of weeks but it just seems very uptighit, lots of post locking and stuff for what seems like harmless chatter about whos car is faster etc.
What does that matter? no-one is making you read it. And the whole illegal street races stuff. No one is making people do it or read about it but why can't we talk about it. It is hardly going to result in the site being taken off line or the police coming to get all 1000+ of us.

Just wanting to get some reasoning behind it all. Just doesn't have the same relaxed feel that other boards do that is all.

[F1ERCE]

EVLTEK: The boards and policys are in place to try and keep this place *civilised* and *professional*.

If we didn't have the structure, and the team behind NZH, it would result in a total, un-moderated mess. I've seen it happen before, does anybody here remember the P/Car forums a few months back? It was a basic free for all, people challenging each other, slinging shit back and forth. Believe me, it happens, and it happens fast.

The moderators on this board are doing a very good job, in keeping things in line... yes, image has a lot to do with it. We would love to evolve NZH into a professionally structured national automotive enthusiasts club (phew, what a mouthful), and allowing people to throw childish comments, abuse others, or post up "boyracer" posts isn't going to help our credibility, is it?

p.s. *my car vs your car* arguments are just retarded. Why? Because there's always going to be a car out there faster than yours, and someone that's going to hand your ass to you on a platter when you least expect it.

[EVLTEK FBI AKL]

Cheers Frank that is what I was after.

[tsotsi]

just thought id say that "car vs car" can be ok sometimes - like, not when people are arguing, but if someone just wants a p2w comparison or something, eg. mattsa's civic coupe vs crx thread

[GecKo]

Originally Posted by tsotsi

just thought id say that "car vs car" can be ok sometimes - like, not when people are arguing, but if someone just wants a p2w comparison or something, eg. mattsa's civic coupe vs crx thread

Fair enough comment, the problem is that replies always end up with people arguing about which car is better.

By locking posts early on we can avoid doing it later

[pxpx]

Threads like those can quickly develop into :

"fack u man! you think ur ___ is the shitz then cum race me! u knoe u wont beet me! fack! my numba is ######## bring it!"

Which is not a good thing :wink:

[Frosty]

im sorry but i think the whole site has got very authorative i mean i dont see how we cant compare cars i mean not ones we own off course but it just seems we cant say anything any more without getting the topic locked or getting in trouble. Car vs Car i would of thought is something that would be very commonly talked about in a car site but on this one we cant, i feel like we are basically being told wat to say and wen to say it,we all go on about cops having all the power yet wat can we do on nzhondas?? basically wat the moderators etc want us to - wers freedom of speech here??

[Dezigns]

Car Vs Car threads quickly become cesspools, and would eventually be the demise of the board, taking away the valuable knowledge people share here.
When the media labels us as 'boyracers' and introduces laws against them, everyone jumps and makes a fuss about it, yet you wish to act like that?

There's a word for saying one thing, yet doing another All this achieves, is shows them their stereotypes are founded.

The forums are here for a purpose :- for car enthusiasts to share their ideas and experiences, and to form a sence of community. If the forums werent moderated, it would quickly undermine everything we have worked for... 8)

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[Frosty]

First of All most of the people on this site are above the age of 10, we do not need people to constantly tell us what we are allowed to say, how to say it and when to say it. If i wanted to b treated like a school kid and be told exactly how to act I would go back to school. This is actually a website for car enthusiast's not little brats. Heaven forbid I might want to put too many smiley faces into my msg, quickly better cut that out.
Car vs Car threads do not always turn to arguing and can be quite useful, it gives people a chance to compare different makes and models and the + and - to both cars. You may say "Just find out on the track" but this isnt always a feasible option, if it was that easy and all that was wanted was a result then that may be fine but actually talking about each car gives you an idea of why which one would be better and for what purpose.
Furthermore on this topic, people argue about which car is better because that is their opinion. Funnily enough most people in the real world actually argue about cars because they actually do have different opinions.
As for some car always being faster than yours well duh. The point is to compare cars, not just brag that my car can rape every other car on this board.
I agree that moderators are needed but where is the freedom of speech rather than the dictatorship which this board is evolving into.

[cubic]

I disagree. I have no difficulty expressing my opinions on this forum, and don't see how you can really compare this to a dictatorship. Obviously we haven't elected the mods but then again no-one's forcing you be part of the site. I don't think that people getting angry at one another does anything beneficial for anyone. If you want that just go for a cruise and yell "get a honda" at people, you'll get all the aggravation you could ever want. If you want to have civilised, polite discussions with other members about something you agree to disagree over then do what I do and choose to come on here.

[GR81]

its simple, we dont want this board turning to shit
ie: toyspeed's old board, i assume their new one is better

i got sick of, my 20v beat a typeR etc

anyways
yea, there you have it, keeping things real

[Frosty]

Cubic - I would disagree with you but then i would be agueing and then thats aganist the rules - as for polite civilised discussions not all of us are babys, we are capable of talking to each other without coming to blows from it, this is the internet last time i checked we didnt neet mum to censor wat we could write

[cubic]

If that's what you want, why don't you start your own forum with no rules and find out for yourself what people will use it for?

[Frosty]

did i say anything about starting a site im just making the point that i think that this site is toooo tight and that we cannot say things without the topic being banned, locked or getting warned - i thought you could agree to disagree obviously not, all im doing is stating my opinion which you do quite alot cubic

[cubic]

You're stating your opinion, and I'm stating mine. We are disagreeing and the topic hasn't been locked.

Unfortunately I have to go offline for a week, so you will have forgotten all about this by the time I get back. kiss kiss :wink:

[Kyes]

car vs car, i dont see the problem with that, but if its MY car vs YOUR car then i do see a problem, mabey if you lighten up on that subject unless it is a "MY car vs YOU car" suituation, but i agree with what you are saying about the site being a formal car enthusiests site needing rules put in place. but it can go too far sometimes.
bye xxoo

[Cyclone21]

Originally Posted by Frosty

First of All most of the people on this site are above the age of 10

Unfortuantly not everyones grey matter has grown at the speed which they have blown out there birthday candles

Originally Posted by Frosty

Cubic - I would disagree with you but then i would be agueing and then thats aganist the rules

Arguing isn't against the rules, being immature and slagging people is.. If you keep to the point of the subject, then no topics will get locked down for "arguing". Disagree with whatever you want, just state your side of the argument!

[Cyclone21]

Originally Posted by wickidcrxmrs

car vs car, i dont see the problem with that, but if its MY car vs YOUR car then i do see a problem

There are waaaaaaay too many variables with car vs. car.. driver ability, modifications, traction, road conditions, etc..

So hence the comparrison of a stock ITR vs. an EVO will differ greatly, compared to if they both had intake/exhaust

[EVLTEK FBI AKL]

heh, haven't checked this in a while, look what I started!!!
Na I think it is good to have a good dicussion and gives everybody a chance to get what they feel out and provides good info for the mods on what the members feel and think etc.

I would however, being a part of other boards say that this one does have a high proportion of immature brats just being idiots, spamming posts, talking nonsense and just generally getting in the way. If there was civilized dicussion all the time then the whole car vs car thing prob woudln't need to be locked cause the mods would know that it woudl'nt turn into a big arguement. I think you guys have spoiled it for yourselves buy acting the way you have.

Other boards are more laxed out cause the members while over the age of 10 have actually started acting like they are over the age of 10, hence the more relaxed and lyaed back feel.

The board is what the members make it. We have made it this way so there can't be any complaining.

[MarkNZ]

what about making a members forum for when the website arrives?
by paying a small fee, youll be given access to a different part of the forum which non-club members can post or look at.that way we could have other posts currently banned on this forum.just my 0.02 cents.

[Dezigns]

Originally Posted by MarkNZ

what about making a members forum for when the website arrives?
by paying a small fee, youll be given access to a different part of the forum which non-club members can post or look at.that way we could have other posts currently banned on this forum.just my 0.02 cents.

Not a bad idea, but it could very well detract from the quality of the forums. Valuable information might only then be available to those who are members/paid...
The sharing our knowledge and experience is a good thing, we don't want to limit that, do we?

[ciacia]

and Frank...
have you consider what i sent you through PM...?
10Q

[F1ERCE]

Originally Posted by MarkNZ

what about making a members forum for when the website arrives?
by paying a small fee, youll be given access to a different part of the forum which non-club members can post or look at.that way we could have other posts currently banned on this forum.just my 0.02 cents.

You're not far off there Mark.... but please wait, all will be revealed with the website.

[F1ERCE]

Originally Posted by EVLTEK

The board is what the members make it. We have made it this way so there can't be any complaining.

Amen to that.

[BWDOWN]

Originally Posted by Frosty

im sorry but i think the whole site has got very authorative

Frosty dont take this the wrong way but if ya dont like the way things are done on here....Leave, its as simple as that. If it worrys you so much maybe you should forget about it.