Stock ignition vs MSD

[MyH22A]

So basically what alot of you are saying is there's no need to do lead's unless your car's pretty heavily mod'd. then the difference become's more noticable.

[turboteg]

Originally Posted by MyH22A

So basically what alot of you are saying is there's no need to do lead's unless your car's pretty heavily mod'd. then the difference become's more noticable.

even if it's heavily modified there's no point, unless your factory leads are stuffed!

On a heavily modified car you might get a couple of hp, but don't go changing them expecting the sort of gains that ice2004 is talking off. He has admitted that "he's not a computer and was guessing" when he said 10-15% increase, but all it takes is somebody as deluded and ill informed as he is to convince other misinformed people that they'll get massive increase's when you WONT!!!!!!!

[sk-itr]

Originally Posted by turboteg

even if it's heavily modified there's no point, unless your factory leads are stuffed!

On a heavily modified car you might get a couple of hp, but don't go changing them expecting the sort of gains that ice2004 is talking off. He has admitted that "he's not a computer and was guessing" when he said 10-15% increase, but all it takes is somebody as deluded and ill informed as he is to convince other misinformed people that they'll get massive increase's when you WONT!!!!!!!

As I said like before I was guessing but Im sure they will give me atleast 3HP increase.

Jase Im not buying anymore leads I think its you who is arguing that OEM leads are good blah blah...

You buy the new OEM leads and I will buy myself the aftermarket leads whoever loses pays the winner. Plus you can pay for my Dyno aswell! If I win. Thats part of the deal too.

[MyH22A]

oh yeap tru so just the lead's arent a major then, because i know some one who did the coil (MSD blaster 2) and since he did that the vehicle started first key turn quicker/better ran abit nicer and had more omf when vtec kicked in. he didnt do his lead's purely due to the price of them.

Someone should to post the question to the performance car dude on PCTV i saw one last week where he was rubbishing blowoff valves and how the stock ones can actually be better because there setup perfect and not so much for the noise aka showoff factor, which seemed so harm performance rather than increase it in most case's he reckoned, he seemed pretty bia's tho, but he knew he what he was talking about.

[sk-itr]

So why on earth did this engine get these NGK leads instead of new OEM leads. Fully worked engine take a look

[Hayce]

Hahaha for fucks sake man.

[turboteg]

you're not to smart are you? where's the proof that it made 20hp extra with those leads? thats what this discussion is based on here!

[sk-itr]

ok I made a mistake gosh we are humans we make mistakes can you take that?

Bloody helllllllllllllllllll

Now I assume 4HP increase you happy now if you want to see the conclusion come to the dyno day and I prove you wrong! wait u in oz I think u need to stfu now!

[Hayce]

Oh boy you are a noob...

Telling Mr turboteg to STFU haha.

So you are admitting you have made a mistake here? If so cool, die thread...

[Horny_Devil]

ur claiming that ur leads will make a power increase over stock ones. the test i proposed is to prove that it will make bugger all differacne.

if u dont want to take the test and prove that ur right then dont, but that just admits to me that im right and u dont have what it takes to prove ur point. im fully willing to pay you for the leads and the dyno if im wrong.

but the conditions that i set out above were more than fair.

You buy the new OEM leads and I will buy myself the aftermarket leads whoever loses pays the winner. Plus you can pay for my Dyno aswell! If I win. Thats part of the deal too.

as for that its u thats trying to prove urself right so its u that needs to be buying the leads. i already know that im right (98% sure) so y do i need to buy anything for this test? and if ur right u shouldnt be worried as ill be buying them off u after the test anyways

atleast 3HP increase.

Keep dreaming, unless u dyno the car with new stock leads how do u really know how much power ur making? u could just be regaining power that the old leads have loast u

Now I assume 4HP increase you happy now if you want to see the conclusion come to the dyno day and I prove you wrong! wait u in oz I think u need to stfu now!

as for that comment, they didnt even make 4hp in the test i posted up and that was on a turboed civic so how u think ull make at least 3 is beyond me.

and do u know what car turboteg drives? 410wkw turbo integra i think hes more than qualified to make his opinions known in this thread


the deal is as it stands how i wrote it in the previous post, take it or leave it, but if u leave it u have to admit that after market leads will give u bugger all of a gain, and hey if im wrong when they dyno day comes ill gladly admit i was wrong and im sure so will a few others on here

[americ_ian]

Originally Posted by Horny_Devil

and do u know what car turboteg drives? 410wkw turbo integra i think hes more than qualified to make his opinions known in this thread

bruce is stil a noob

"nah bae, i reckon 3 hp max! o maybe 4... yeah 4hp max bo, from changn' mah leads to da NwGK's!!! niggas wit guns kill! y0"

[Horny_Devil]

ur the least qualified here ian, i think even ice have more knowledge over u

[americ_ian]

yeah thats true, i dont run any leads at all in my car

[turboteg]

Originally Posted by americ_ian

bruce is stil a noob

"nah bae, i reckon 3 hp max! o maybe 4... yeah 4hp max bo, from changn' mah leads to da NwGK's!!! niggas wit guns kill! y0"

yea i must be a noob ian, cos i run factory leads! lol

nice of you to stick up for your mate "ice2004" tho, you must have taught him everything he knows did ya?

[sk-itr]

Ive been learning all these stuff myself. I read and research alot. I teach myself from my experiences and knowledge I gained through out the ownership of my b18cr engine. so if you want to learn you are more than welcome to support me! lol

Im goning to have a big long laugh if I win this war lmao!
The other good thing is am a run a party for all Honda Society fans too.

[americ_ian]

Originally Posted by turboteg

nice of you to stick up for your mate "ice2004" tho

bugger

ooo a honda society party! we can get pissed and discuss my dyno plot! wat ya reckon icce ice baby>?

[VTAKYO]

I put aftermarket leads on and now I beat GTRs.

Try argue with that shit boiz~~

[sk-itr]

Originally Posted by americ_ian

bugger

ooo a honda society party! we can get pissed and discuss my dyno plot! wat ya reckon icce ice baby>?

lol sure thing but im bringing my GF with me so yeah!

Anyway dat graph just cracked me up but Im sure its gonna give us some good gains once installed with proper spark plugs

[sk-itr]

Originally Posted by VTAKYO

I put aftermarket leads on and now I beat GTRs.

Try argue with that shit boiz~~

Yeeeeeeh anyone want to argue with us?

Aftermarket leads rules!!! Like it or not

[VTAKYO]

I was being sarcastic you realise?

GOSH. YOU. IDIOT.

When I installed my leads, I noticed absolutely nothing. Just got them to bling shit up, as you do. For something so cheap to develop, why the hell would a car manufacturer not design them like MSD/Nology/Spoon from factory? Honda got things right from factory.

[sk-itr]

lol I was been a bit silly this time my bad!

Aftermarket leads are certainly better than OEM leads. <<

[americ_ian]

yeah i agree , Aftermarket leads are certainly better than OEM leads because that big wod of cash in my wallet is now gone and i lost weight! churr

[Horny_Devil]

Originally Posted by ice2004

Aftermarket leads are certainly better than OEM leads. <<

im not disputing that ull get a better spark and increased efficency, but more power? i really dont think so, if uve done so much research show us proof. cause at the moment ur just being ignorant

so do we have a deal or not?

[sk-itr]

We can have a deal once you supply the OEM leads and I supply the aftermarket leads.

Thats how it is in my theory! Will look when I had the time to show you the power increase!

[Hayce]

Originally Posted by ice2004

The other good thing is am a run a party for all Honda Society fans too.

wtf?


I'll be keen to pick up these new oem leads when you lady's are done, I need some leads