engine options for ek1

[vti]

f20b
b18c
turbo d16
h22a


i was wondering what would take more work to do and best for my ek1 what do you guys think?

please post a comment as to why you think i should go for either one

im unsure of what to go for,

i would like to have a mild amount of power i.e 200-250hp without pushing engine too far(but also having the option of a few after market bits to throw in/on it) i also whant good power to weight ratio and good torque.

i dont want to spend heaps either

what do i do about the exhaust when i do my motor change? will i need to get a custom exhaust?

all healp appreciated

[ryan540]

this could pose a problem :p

Originally Posted by vti

i dont want to spend heaps either

personally i'd go for b18c, pretty common and good value for money, also pretty easy transplant into your car and they go really good too :wink:

[Codeman]

So you want power, tourqe, reliability, not pushing the engine and not spending much...

Maybe a Bmx? or mountain bike?
skateboards are also getting cheap nowdays
Just kidding mate.

What do you want out of all this? street driven or track or..
Best to figure that out then go from there.
Codie

[vti]

i want it mainly streetable but i want to be able to take it to the track everynow and then and maybe turn it into race car later on

when i say not pushing the engine too much i mean strain it hard i.e give it stupid amounts of compression or put huge boost through it.

i want power right throught the rev range, torque to get it off the line and to pull it throught the rev range resonably fast.

[DrRubber]

h22a or f20b :thumbsup: , loads of tourque.....nice revving......reliable.......cant go wrong....no need to force feed and can still be quite the sleeper and not attract the wrong sort of attention :wink:

[EVLTEK FBI AKL]

how much do you have to spend - this is the first question that needs to be answered.

[FLYRYD]

go with the b18c. its a good engine and pretty easy to drop in and can still run AC, PS

[Codeman]

Originally Posted by vti

i want power right throught the rev range, torque to get it off the line and to pull it throught the rev range resonably fast.

I think it really depends on what car your using aswell.

If its a light wee eg hatch or something, then b18c would be a way to go, if its a prelude or integra for example, and you still want that power, then go abit bigger for the tourqe.

Remember, if your doing track stuff, tyres, suspension ect, are just as important as power

Im on the same track, but with a crx, So it doesnt need a huge moter to go fast!!


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[VTAKYO]

200-250hp atw? Good luck doing that without spending much, chump. I don't think things are going to work how you want. I take it not spending much means spending around the $2500-3000 mark? In that case, rule out B18C, most conversion kits will cost you upwards of $2000. Also, how much can you do yourself? Because I get the impression you don't quite know your stuff too well and will be getting someone else to do it. Hence, add another $1000ish on top for labour. H22A is a cheaper engine to purchase, and makes good power/torque. And since you are having to change mounts anyway (going from D-series), this could be a good option. I have seen H22A kits go for as little as 500, from BB1s, and with reasonable KMs. F20B I think will be out of the question in terms of cost, unless you can get a kit for a good price.

Depending on the KMs of your engine, turbo'ing it may be a good option! And will be within your budget too.

I think you need to do some research.

[IMAQL8]

go b16a like me :wink:

its tuned to 295hp@wheels and thats with standard internals..

b16a motors are cheap as chips these days too.. with alot of bolt ons, but then again b18c is good too.. but at least with a b16a you can say your cars only a 1600cc and keep up if not beat the bigger displacement cars

[Hayce]

No 2JZ option? weak...

[turbozxi]

Just boost your stock engine its a D16 or something I assume?. Why? Because its simple and will get you what you want. It won't be cheap to do properly, but its probably the most cost effective way to go.

[Codeman]

Originally Posted by Hayce

No 2JZ option? weak...

Wonder if ya could fit a 2jz east west...

Imagine that in a honda! (with an lsd)
Can some body say sleeper :evil:

[VTAKYO]

Originally Posted by Codeman

Wonder if ya could fit a 2jz east west...

Imagine that in a honda! (with an lsd)
Can some body say zero-traction :evil:

You could fit it if you stretched the car horizontally and removed the strut towers

[hybrid_H]

like adam said, how much do u want to spend?

turbo d16 will cost you 5k plus for a bare decent setup, and you can get around 200hp atw on 9psi. car will be alot mre torquier, and can be very reliable and streetable.

if ur on a budget, go b16 or b18, then turbo or add cams i/h/e later on when u can afford it.

also comes down to who u know and if u have "hookups" with labour, doing an engine conversion isnt cheap on labour.

[vti]

Originally Posted by VTAKYO

200-250hp atw? Good luck doing that without spending much, chump. I don't think things are going to work how you want. I take it not spending much means spending around the $2500-3000 mark? In that case, rule out B18C, most conversion kits will cost you upwards of $2000. Also, how much can you do yourself? Because I get the impression you don't quite know your stuff too well and will be getting someone else to do it. Hence, add another $1000ish on top for labour. H22A is a cheaper engine to purchase, and makes good power/torque. And since you are having to change mounts anyway (going from D-series), this could be a good option. I have seen H22A kits go for as little as 500, from BB1s, and with reasonable KMs. F20B I think will be out of the question in terms of cost, unless you can get a kit for a good price.

Depending on the KMs of your engine, turbo'ing it may be a good option! And will be within your budget too.

I think you need to do some research.

i was thinking of spending around 4-5k even if i have to just change the motor first then add cam/turbo or the likes of etc later on.

i can get my hands on engine cranes etc have a fair few tools at home and can also get my hand on some from work at a wicked price too.
the only reason why i might take it to someone to do is if i cant get help from the like of some of you fellow honda people that know what their doing.

i have been doing research but i have also found many pros and cons of each option i have listed

also i have a pretty good idea on the mechanical side of things just unsure of what motor to go for as i new to hondas

i have a d16y in my car its a ek1 sedan only done 56,000km im not bothered about a/c

imaql8 - what have you got in ur b16a to get it to 295hp at the wheels?!?

i am also doing suspenson tyres etc

i have never been in a car with a h22a so i am unure f what they are capable of.

first thing on my list of tuning is getting a more performance orientated engine as i can mod it later on, a modded engine doesnt have to go in it right away

i found this on trade me http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-124758033.htm

what about the exhause once i have droped the engine in?!?![

would anyone be willing to help me do the engine swap? ill supply beers :twisted:

[vti]

the b16a only have 25hp more than my d16y, how much power do they make once you put cams exhaust intake etc on it?

an option im leaning towards is a b16a with b18c crank, bigger injectors type r cams, exhaust, intake light weight flywheel and a computer

what do you think of that option? or am i better to just go for h22a or save for longer and go with b18c if im going to spend that much on a b16a?

[Codeman]

personlly, a owned a d16 zc, in a crx tho, and it went hard, then went in a shity tuned zc turbo in a civic, and it scared me on 9psi, they deffaintlly go hard, and reliable on a good tune.