zc turbo-build

[ranom01]

do i need a pump or anything on the oil lines, or does the turbo do that by it self, anything else i need on the oil lines

[phonix]

Yep definitely use a pump. Turbo's usually do it themselves, but have been known to get lazy. A unit like this will be good.

[ranom01]

haha very funny, i just wanan no so i dont starv the turbo of oil n seeze it

[Bigelboe]

Dude seriously just do some reading and you might find all the answers to your n00b questions without bothering us with your atrocious grammar.

[ranom01]

ok, i got my turbo in the mail today lol, it is a ct9 off a toyota desiel turbo ans it has had the carbon seals changed so it kan run on a petrol engine, i also hav a ct12a without an exhaust housing so im goin to take the exhaust housing and propeller off the ct9 and put in on the ct12a, which will make it spool fasting....i think, but i might do that after i hav got the car, btw is the ef that DURTYEF3 has for sale http://nzhondas.com/phpBB2/fs-ef3-fa...-vtu71769.html , shud be getting it on wednesday, ill get sum pics up when i figure out how to, which will be soon hopefully,

[ranom01]

got bored, so i decided to do the ct9/ct12-a hybrid turbo, i took all the bearings and the shaft out of the ct9 and put them into the ct12-a, perfict fit, except the intake propeller off the ct12-a doesnt quite fit the shaft off the ct9, so i will hav to get a very thin spacer or something tomoro, but everything else lines up good, the exhaust housing off the ct-9 fits perfectly onto the ct12-a so all is good

[Pommy]

why did you go with that particular turbo?

[ranom01]

just sumthin that cam up at the time so i decided to take the oppertunity, i dont want anything big cus im only runnin about8-10 psi, and i dont realy want to melt the pistons to the head

[VTAKYO]

Why not a T3 or something? Your only going to come into trouble doing a turbo-build on the cheap. The money you saved getting a cheap turbo you will pay for later in getting the seals to change it to suit a petrol engine, and in custom fab to make a manifold flange to suit it, you could have used to get a T28, T3, TD04, or TD05 like everyone else does for these sorts of basic builds - and could get an off the shelf manifold to suit.

[ranom01]

im still leaarnin, its only a shitter car, i was gona try this, then save up n built a b18b turbo or something to drop in later, i just want to c how everything works

[tarmac-]

dreamer

[ranom01]

i thought these forums were for people who want help from other people, not for people who want to be criticized for wat there doin and put down

[phonix]

Originally Posted by ranom01

i thought these forums were for people who want help from other people, not for people who want to be criticized for wat there doin and put down

You've been given more than enough advice already, the problem is you just don't listen.

If you bothered searching you would find there are quite a few threads exactly the same as this, budget as turbo builds which end in disaster. If you want to build a turbo honda on the cheap, follow tarmac-'s example, I think he had a build thread floating round (yes, you will probably have to search for this).

Otherwise do lot's of reading in the FI forums of www.honda-tech.com and www.homemadeturbo.com.

Sometimes you have to help yourself before others can.

[VTAKYO]

Tarmac used a similar setup to what I was going to use, but I think he had a T3/T4 hybrid, as I remember him mentioning the idea of hybriding a skyline and rx7 turbo. I believe he had a lot of the parts lying around, or had mad hookups - because the parts ended up costing me a fair bit anyway. He also used an internal wastegate I think. Heres a brief rundown:

T3 Turbo off an R32: $350
SSI Stainless Manifold: $700 (this is retail, however I got discount on top of this )
VR4 injectors + plugs: $70
Evo8 Fuelpump: $50
Turbosmart BOV: $150
Turbosmart 35mm External Wastegate: $150
Custom ECU+Chip with basetune: $100
Spare Engine: $150
Downpiping+Intercooler piping: around $300
Evo6 Intercooler: $150
Hoses+Fittings: estimated around the $150-200 mark, never got them.

Then labour/fabrication on top for the piping/oil tapping etc. So thats around the $2000 mark right there, and there are always costs on top - like the fact a turbo setup wears out parts more (clutch, driveline, etc). That was "on the cheap" but not super cheap. At low boost it should last you a while. You could go cheaper, but you'd only end up killing your engine faster.

[ranom01]

ok, cheers for that, so hardend valve springs yay or nay??

[Bigelboe]

Originally Posted by ranom01

ok, cheers for that, so hardend valve springs yay or nay??

You only need valve springs if you plan on chaning the cam, not advisable for a turbo build ont he cheap.

Do you have fabrication skills? Can you weld and think about mechanical problems and solve them for yourself? If the answer to any of these question is no then a cheap turbo build is very very hard to manage unless you have a lot of good, handy friends.

[phonix]

Originally Posted by ranom01

ok, cheers for that, so hardend valve springs yay or nay??

Search noob.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/1024174

Read every thing there, including the links, and then come back and ask questions.

/silverfuckingplatter

[ranom01]

Originally Posted by Bigelboe

Do you have fabrication skills? Can you weld and think about mechanical problems and solve them for yourself? If the answer to any of these question is no then a cheap turbo build is very very hard to manage unless you have a lot of good, handy friends.

yea, been workin on cars n fabricating stuff for a wile now, i also work part time at a metal fabrication place makin stuff for cars