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Old 21st August 2006, 09:44 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Re: ECU not needed

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whats up with people and ECU's???

im gonna run 5psi and its a tiny turbo..
B16A injectors can more than compensate for 5psi anything over that i've been told you need to run H22A or similar injectors..

so yeah don't need to alter or change ECU as the PGMFi has no worries adapting to the new 5psi environment
factory fuel rail and regulator is no worries either

*thumbs up for Honda factory JDM upmarket parts*

Not like Mitsubishi where if u change even just the airfilter the ECU needs to be altered.. Gosh poor ppl who own those electrical nightmares
I started writing a big reply about how your ECU will throw a code as soon as the MAP sensor see's positive pressure, but fuck it. Do it how you want, don't listen to people who have done it before, and blow your shit up.

Just don't come back here saying "why did my upmarket JDM Honda ECU not just whack some boost columns on at the end of my tables and tune itself."

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Old 23rd August 2006, 05:58 PM   #27 (permalink)
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whats up with people and ECU's???

im gonna run 5psi and its a tiny turbo..
B16A injectors can more than compensate for 5psi anything over that i've been told you need to run H22A or similar injectors..

so yeah don't need to alter or change ECU as the PGMFi has no worries adapting to the new 5psi environment
factory fuel rail and regulator is no worries either

Final warning ... do this and your engine will die within one oil change ....

People like you who know NOTHING about ecu's and cars really tick me off :evil: .... Go read somthing
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Old 1st September 2006, 11:04 AM   #28 (permalink)
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forum honda owners no help

Man i can't believe how childish some of the people are on this forum, I came here asking for advice on parts. Ended up with a bunch of guys who think they know everything and give Honda a bad name..

It's no wonder so many people are going away from the Honda brand

EG: Honda doesn't even appear in the latest racing games.

Thanks guys for showing that mazda owner's are right about Honda's.

Im shocked at the way people have replied to this..

Obviously don't have much confidence in B16Aa engines..
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Old 1st September 2006, 11:11 AM   #29 (permalink)
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again all I can say is don't play with fire ...



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Old 1st September 2006, 11:14 AM   #30 (permalink)
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wtf are you talking about?

The only negative thing in this thread is people telling you that you should upgrade your ecu (Which you should!) & your turbo is a little small (which it is!).

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EG: Honda doesn't even appear in the latest racing games.
wtf is that^ computer games? who gives a pull, seriously!

You sound like your shocked that we dont think the b16 can handle it.... well its an engine, if you push it it'll blow up, simple. Its like putting a t51R on a a stock 12a and running 100psi = hope you like the taste of rotor.
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Old 1st September 2006, 02:17 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: forum honda owners no help

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Man i can't believe how childish some of the people are on this forum, I came here asking for advice on parts. Ended up with a bunch of guys who think they know everything and give Honda a bad name..

It's no wonder so many people are going away from the Honda brand

EG: Honda doesn't even appear in the latest racing games.
These guys are just trying to give you advice dude, they've built and owned turbo Honda's before and are trying to pass on their knowledge... If you just blindly tell them they're wrong and ignore all advice, then of course they're going to get frustrated with you?

Please enlighten me how you expect a factory NA ECU to increase the injectors duty cycle and adjust timing when it see's boost, when the engineer that wrote the code for it never expected it to see boost...?

Go jump on your precious Mazda forum and ask them how you would go about running a GTX engine with an RX7 ECU, will the cam timing still be okay etc, and see what kind of response you get Because there's very little difference between asking that, and what you're saying here!

At the -very- least you'll need a piggy back system that will trick the ECU into thinking everything is still nice and naturally aspirated.
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Old 1st September 2006, 03:24 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: forum honda owners no help

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Man i can't believe how childish some of the people are on this forum, I came here asking for advice on parts. Ended up with a bunch of guys who think they know everything and give Honda a bad name..

It's no wonder so many people are going away from the Honda brand

EG: Honda doesn't even appear in the latest racing games.

Thanks guys for showing that mazda owner's are right about Honda's.

Im shocked at the way people have replied to this..

Obviously don't have much confidence in B16Aa engines..
Why bother asking for advice when you just ignore it?

As I've already said, do it your way if you know best. Just don't come back here whinging when your shit blows up. Infact, video it so I can laugh.

P.S Honda's not in video games? WTF mang?
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Old 5th September 2006, 08:49 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Whats childish is you being so ignorant to free advice that we are more than happy to provide you with. Tuning is one of or prob the most vital aspect of turboing a car! You gotta do things right dude trust me i know 3 motors this year and onto my 4th tommorow. Im only running 6psi oh yea sweet thought it would be all good, with my crap tune on my ecu its been nothing but problems. Spend some money atleast on the tuning side of things.... you ever pulled on the actuator rod of a wastegate... thats the amount of force a turbo pushes into a HIGH COMPRESSED standard B16a motor

my 2c aint the sharpest person here but anyone should be bright enough to take advice from people that have already done this!
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Old 6th September 2006, 07:34 AM   #34 (permalink)
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i agree, im in the process of building a turbo ZC, i knw may not relate but important, valuable advice like this from people who have been there and done that is "PRICELESS"

Lol dont worry though im sure theres been alot of people that have done this, thats why these people (usuals on NZH) get so frustrated because they reiterate this topic so many times!!..

hava nice day, and gl wit da build
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Old 6th September 2006, 11:31 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Yea dude good luck with the build, also one thing to i advise! run really really good oil haha. Sometihng like 10w40 fully synthetic. If i had have done this from day one my motors would not have collapsed bearings and dropped oil pressure. Oil is also vital but most of us already know that, me i didnt realise how vital it actually is!

You will love boosting 8) have fun!
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Old 6th September 2006, 01:29 PM   #36 (permalink)
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you got it mate :thumbsup:
good oil and frequent changes = long motor life
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Old 6th September 2006, 02:41 PM   #37 (permalink)
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you got it mate :thumbsup:
good oil and frequent changes = long motor life
and a decent engine builder for the OP and maybe an ecu
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you got it mate :thumbsup:
good oil and frequent changes = long motor life
and a decent engine builder for the OP and maybe an ecu
Lol!! i must learn how to do that smaller font one day 8)
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Old 7th September 2006, 11:27 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Yea dude good luck with the build, also one thing to i advise! run really really good oil haha. Sometihng like 10w40 fully synthetic. If i had have done this from day one my motors would not have collapsed bearings and dropped oil pressure. Oil is also vital but most of us already know that, me i didnt realise how vital it actually is!

You will love boosting 8) have fun!
Yeh its a good idea to run oil , but i can say that i ran my first b16a on pre 1988 carby non performance oil for quite some time ops: .. still goes tho
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