Turbo'd d16 ????

[Cocofat]

this isnt a maby thing im going to try and get this turbo done before raceday. ok here we go,

im going to use a t25 off a 180sx,
small intercooler off a vr4 because I can get one very cheap

now those are the 100% sure things, im only going to go for around 6psi boost for now because I dont have the money to go higher yet but I plan to go 12ish proberbly early next year.

now what I want to know what else will I exactly need because im not ritch I plan to get a new part every week or so when I have the money,

ive been told with such a low boost I wont need to sped heaps of money on new fuel pump / reg's / injectors ect ..

could I avoid getting a new ecu and just using the current one?? can anyone give me an exact list of what I will need and what would be good upgrades?

[EVLEVO]

DEVILZ is probably the man to talk to about this, but considering I bought a turbo kit off his cousin I can probably offer you a little advice.

I had a 1988 CRX Si with a 1600 DOHC (ZC) engine. The turbo kit basically comprised of this:

1 x Greddy manifold
1 x Garrett T-25 turbo
1 x VR4 intercooler
2 x extra injectors
1 x Blitz BOV
1 x PowerLink (to control the injectors)
8 x pieces of custom piping

+ various other bits 'n' pieces. I have photos of all the parts if you want me to send you any

[evil_si]

an extra injector controller seems like the way to go.
u should upgrade ur fuel pump and fuel pressure regulator
i have a h22a intank pump, and malpassi frp,
and on factory internals 6psi is heaps. i would reccommend decompressing it i have been told by a guy in the states to use a 2mm copper head gasket
i did mine my self, the fuelling was dodgee thou, i used a missing link just a map sensor bypass and rising rate fpr. it worked ok then i tried a H22a computer it went better but over fuelling shit loads.
now i have a greedy chip from the states getting fitted now, we'll c how that works or i'll just go 4 a link

i made my own manifold and plumbing. kept it cheap
and fitted everything myself,
i can get photos if u want

[EVLEVO]

http://www.homemadeturbo.com

http://www.turbohonda.com

[TuLaLiT]

it will cost more than $50 .................

AHAhaHaHhahahaHaHhaHaHhaHaHhaahaha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cocofat]

ok ive bought the t25 and an evol 3 intercooler for $900 from motec parts in lower hutt ... THE PROJECT HAS BEGUN

[Cocofat]

ps photos of your work would be good!!!

less work I get total turbo todo and the more I can do the better

[Cocofat]

UPDATES!!!!!


im now going to make this car Twin Turbo !! lol afaik it will be the only road legal twin turbo honda in nz !! still only running 6psi but there will be room to move about now, good low end tourque ect

the turbos are most likley going to be sourced from Daihatsu Miras or gti's

[v8vtec]

it is usually not a good idea to put in a thicker gasket to reduce compression, but rather to get dished pistons. It is an okay temp measure but the cooling process is disturbed, especially around the crown of the piston, (crown gets to hot and then melts/ cooler crown, more boost safely)
Also the fuel pressure needs to be noted. You need to increase the fuel press by the amount of boost you intend to run.
Good luck, and keep us posted!

[Scott C]

Originally Posted by v8vtec

it is usually not a good idea to put in a thicker gasket to reduce compression, but rather to get dished pistons. It is an okay temp measure but the cooling process is disturbed, especially around the crown of the piston, (crown gets to hot and then melts/ cooler crown, more boost safely)
Also the fuel pressure needs to be noted. You need to increase the fuel press by the amount of boost you intend to run.
Good luck, and keep us posted!

You weaken the crown though when you dish em. Its a much better idea to get a custom flat-top piston with a low compression height.... which is effectively what your doing with a thick head gasket.
As also you dont get hot spots with flat-tops. That hpc stuff help alleviate this problem.

[turbozxi]

You are talking about doing things cheaply and wanting a twin turbo setup for 6 psi???? You would be wasting money if your thinking you'll get extra performance from a twin VS single turbo setup if you are doing it for originality then sure can't imagine it will be cheap or easy. At 6 psi there is no point in decompressing your engine as long as you get it well tuned. Tuning is about the most important aspect when turboing N/A vehicles. Go for a turbo link they are good very pleased with mine you can either get just an extra injector controller or a ignition and extra injector controller or a full on standalone replacement ecu that will control many things ie: launch controll, anti lag, intercooler sprayers most things you can imagine. IMO ditch the twin turbo idea and spend the money on tuning. Also get a compression and leak down test on your engine before you do anything, no good spending lots of money on a worn out engine. Goodluck

[Cement]

Sorry to burst ya idea but there was a guy in Ack looking at buying my EF that was/ had built a twin turbo B16A ... they were looking for a car for it to go in and got an EG hatch.

I guess we wil see it appear some time soon

Not sure if the same applies to the non B-Series but i have a set of standard B18C pistons that when used in a B16A will drop the compression to a turbo friendly level (9:1 ? i think) ... nice alternative to a decomp plate ... which i would not touch after having one of sorts before.

[jasja]

so where do you do the turbo installation?

[Cocofat]

oh well the first twin d series turbo then!! LOL


in all seriousness im going to go with a 1.75mm copper gasket for now, the reason why im going twin is faster spooling .. and eventually when I have got some big $$ im going to put aftermaket pistons, cams valves thelot really ... eventually in small stages up the boost to 1.5bar planning on spending around 15K next year .. I know it sounds stupid but hey its my money I can do what I want with it right?

[turbozxi]

so where do you do the turbo installation? Boosted Performance did all my work did very good job. www.Boostedperformance.co.nz

Cocofat as you said its your money but before spending a lot of money , you should make sure the car is worth it to your own eye's at least. With newer cars there is a huge aftermarket for parts and parts in general are in better condition and easier to come by. And you will need a lot of parts boosting in excess of 1bar gearboxs and such will come and go quickly.

[EVLEVO]

I spy with my little eye, something beginning with twin..... :wink:

[Cocofat]

im going to do as much work for myself as I can but im going to get these guys http://www.totalturbo.co.nz to do the rest for me as im not very experienced in setting up turbos on N/A cars

[endles]

If you have an OBD1 computer then get it chiped by hondata
then replace with some bigger injecters, say H22A or somfin
then you have pefectly mapped boost for low outlay