DEL SOL F20c Track Car

F20C CRX DEL SOL · 10th June 2008, 08:30 PM

All new to hondas but have got my hands on Dave Strongs ex rally car. Will be running in SS2000 next year and also on gravel in the winter. Its a turn key rally car so just need some bolt on track goodies for the summer season. Any ideas for

Track suspension and spring rates

dazznz · 11th June 2008, 09:00 AM

Hey man, i'm in ss2000 myself. Car #66. Welcome to the honda side haha.

I think with that car there won't be to much suspension advice floating around. I would say it is a chassis that has not been used much for racing before (At least not in NZ). Perhaps your best bet would be to talk to Stocks or Autolign and see what they recommend.

Nice car though. I know some of the ss2000 guys had their eye on it.

berman · 11th June 2008, 03:31 PM

Being an EG chassis car, just use the EG/DC stuff. Spring rates is up to you personally and whether you want understeer/trail braking etc. I'd imagine the weight bias between front and rear wont be any different to an EG civic so I doubt you would have to take that into account.
:edit: why did I think this was RWD?

Nice buy by the way,

Good luck in SS2000, smoke some civics/integras for me

americ_ian · 11th June 2008, 04:01 PM

yeah eg would be your best bet

Green Machine · 11th June 2008, 05:04 PM

sorry off topic but any chance you could chuck up some pics of it, and the engine? Am I right in thinking this was the one that was running fwd with a toyota gearbox?

[QUIKdc2] · 11th June 2008, 05:09 PM

Think it has a rover box...

BigAl · 11th June 2008, 06:22 PM

rover tomcat gearbox with quaiffe close ratio gear kit and quaiffe atb diff.

think a higher final drive and baffled sump will probably be the first things to look at before getting on the track

the chassis set up and corner weights are very similar to a dc2 so this will give you a good starting point for spring weights and alignment settings

your rally shocks will need revalving or swaping to handle the higher spring rates/lower pistons speeds of a track setup

hope to see you out there soon ....give Mike a hurry up in the evo !!

F20C CRX DEL SOL · 12th June 2008, 07:57 PM

Cheers for your input guys, hondas are all new to me. First stop will be Stocks to discuss some options with a spare set of rally sticks we have lying around. A day at Puke track highlighted the need for sump baffles, poor convertible lotus elise drivers that were following a cloud of smoke onto the back straight. Any ideas were to head in auckland for a baffle man..

B16B EG Civic · 12th June 2008, 09:52 PM

Andrew Short .... I'll give you his number when I see you at the workshop next

jimityjim · 13th June 2008, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazznz

Hey man, i'm in ss2000 myself. Car #66. Welcome to the honda side haha.

I think with that car there won't be to much suspension advice floating around. I would say it is a chassis that has not been used much for racing before (At least not in NZ). Perhaps your best bet would be to talk to Stocks or Autolign and see what they recommend.

Nice car though. I know some of the ss2000 guys had their eye on it.

What spring rates are you running in your DC?

dazznz · 14th June 2008, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimityjim

What spring rates are you running in your DC?

Don't have any setup rates yet, as i have just put new suspension is and havn't had a chance to test it yet.

There are many different theory's on how to setup a car. Just have a bit of a play around, and get the car going how you like it.

point2 · 14th June 2008, 03:17 PM

Hey Goose, Andrew Shorts Number is written on the back of the car. It's on the spoiler.
If ya cleaned it ya might find it

Its still yellow, it will not go any quicker till you paint it green

b18c1 · 16th June 2008, 05:14 PM

you don't happen to know muppy and neil do ya?

point2 · 16th June 2008, 06:54 PM

I know them both, Neil looks after my Evo in SS2000

Green Machine · 16th June 2008, 07:33 PM

Needs pics!!!!

b18c1 · 17th June 2008, 04:37 PM

ah ha thought it was you, so whats happening to the evo now? is that still gona be raced?

point2 · 17th June 2008, 08:56 PM

yip ran last year with SS2000, managed a third overall which was cool.
new motor coming next season which should see another 60-80kw's
Gotta keep ahead of the super quick Honda powered cars like BigAl and Tony G.
And Ant in the CRX when we get a box built.

EF_GTI · 18th June 2008, 09:41 AM

Hi, have you spoken to Dave Strong? He built it and knows a bit about making Hondas go fast (his cars first, second and third in kiwi2 last year) and I'm sure he would be OK to help out with what bits are in it etc.
Have fun, it is a seriously quick car.

10th June 2008, 08:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
F20C CRX DEL SOL Junior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4 Location: Auckland	DEL SOL F20c Track Car All new to hondas but have got my hands on Dave Strongs ex rally car. Will be running in SS2000 next year and also on gravel in the winter. Its a turn key rally car so just need some bolt on track goodies for the summer season. Any ideas for Track suspension and spring rates

11th June 2008, 09:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
dazznz Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,458 Location: Auckland	Re: DEL SOL F20c Track Car Hey man, i'm in ss2000 myself. Car #66. Welcome to the honda side haha. I think with that car there won't be to much suspension advice floating around. I would say it is a chassis that has not been used much for racing before (At least not in NZ). Perhaps your best bet would be to talk to Stocks or Autolign and see what they recommend. Nice car though. I know some of the ss2000 guys had their eye on it. __________________ www.yorkmotorsport.co.nz www.badboy.co.nz www.nzkw.com www.theblackhawk.co.nz www.queenb.co.nz (Online home shoping)

11th June 2008, 03:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
berman Team NZH: Mod 8,000rpm (B Series Redline!) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 4,632 Location: Tauranga	Re: DEL SOL F20c Track Car Being an EG chassis car, just use the EG/DC stuff. Spring rates is up to you personally and whether you want understeer/trail braking etc. I'd imagine the weight bias between front and rear wont be any different to an EG civic so I doubt you would have to take that into account. :edit: why did I think this was RWD? Nice buy by the way, Good luck in SS2000, smoke some civics/integras for me __________________ www.speedfactor.co.nz www.slipstreamperformance.co.nz *"VTEC, it's like having your foot to the floor, and switching the a/c off at 5800rpm"* Last edited by berman; 11th June 2008 at 05:59 PM. Reason: Doh!

11th June 2008, 04:01 PM	#4 (permalink)
americ_ian Senior Member 18,000rpm+ Honda F1! Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 10,474 Location: Hamilton	Re: DEL SOL F20c Track Car yeah eg would be your best bet __________________ Ex D16a Ex b16a, ex b18cr, ex h22a turbo, ex h2b, ex k20a.... Current: F20c!!!!!! Bastard child Toyota ae86 with honda powa!! weaksauce.org www.41.co.nz Last edited by americ_ian; 11th June 2008 at 04:41 PM.

11th June 2008, 05:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
Green Machine Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,955 Location: Te Puke	Re: DEL SOL F20c Track Car sorry off topic but any chance you could chuck up some pics of it, and the engine? Am I right in thinking this was the one that was running fwd with a toyota gearbox? __________________ b18cR nzdm eg.. 143kws..not enough... Always for sale at the right price.

11th June 2008, 05:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
[QUIKdc2] Senior Member 8,000rpm (B Series Redline!) Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,745 Location: Outside NZ: United States	Re: DEL SOL F20c Track Car Think it has a rover box... __________________ Sucked into Drifting Ex - DC2 14.2 @ 155km/h \| New Project Coming Soon.....

11th June 2008, 06:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
BigAl Senior Member 5,000rpm (VTEC Power!) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,092 Location: Wanganui	Re: DEL SOL F20c Track Car rover tomcat gearbox with quaiffe close ratio gear kit and quaiffe atb diff. think a higher final drive and baffled sump will probably be the first things to look at before getting on the track the chassis set up and corner weights are very similar to a dc2 so this will give you a good starting point for spring weights and alignment settings your rally shocks will need revalving or swaping to handle the higher spring rates/lower pistons speeds of a track setup hope to see you out there soon ....give Mike a hurry up in the evo !! __________________ My Dyno Run http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftk6OOMO6MA

12th June 2008, 07:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
F20C CRX DEL SOL Junior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4 Location: Auckland	Re: DEL SOL F20c Track Car Cheers for your input guys, hondas are all new to me. First stop will be Stocks to discuss some options with a spare set of rally sticks we have lying around. A day at Puke track highlighted the need for sump baffles, poor convertible lotus elise drivers that were following a cloud of smoke onto the back straight. Any ideas were to head in auckland for a baffle man..

12th June 2008, 09:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
B16B EG Civic Senior Member 3,000rpm (Grandma Drag) Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 437 Location: Auckland	Re: DEL SOL F20c Track Car Andrew Short .... I'll give you his number when I see you at the workshop next __________________ SS2000 / Honda Challenge EG Civic #72 - 2007/08 1600cc Honda challenge champion & 2nd over all (2nd by 1 placing in 1 race!)

14th June 2008, 03:17 PM	#12 (permalink)
point2 Junior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3 Location: Auckland	Re: DEL SOL F20c Track Car Hey Goose, Andrew Shorts Number is written on the back of the car. It's on the spoiler. If ya cleaned it ya might find it Its still yellow, it will not go any quicker till you paint it green

16th June 2008, 05:14 PM	#13 (permalink)
b18c1 Senior Member 3,000rpm (Grandma Drag) Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 441 Location: Auckland	Re: DEL SOL F20c Track Car you don't happen to know muppy and neil do ya? __________________ Post Your GT4 Whore http://nzhondas.com/forum/community-...56k-no-no.html

16th June 2008, 06:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
point2 Junior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3 Location: Auckland	Re: DEL SOL F20c Track Car I know them both, Neil looks after my Evo in SS2000

16th June 2008, 07:33 PM	#15 (permalink)
Green Machine Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,955 Location: Te Puke	Re: DEL SOL F20c Track Car Needs pics!!!! __________________ b18cR nzdm eg.. 143kws..not enough... Always for sale at the right price.

17th June 2008, 04:37 PM	#16 (permalink)
b18c1 Senior Member 3,000rpm (Grandma Drag) Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 441 Location: Auckland	Re: DEL SOL F20c Track Car ah ha thought it was you, so whats happening to the evo now? is that still gona be raced? __________________ Post Your GT4 Whore http://nzhondas.com/forum/community-...56k-no-no.html

17th June 2008, 08:56 PM	#17 (permalink)
point2 Junior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3 Location: Auckland	Re: DEL SOL F20c Track Car yip ran last year with SS2000, managed a third overall which was cool. new motor coming next season which should see another 60-80kw's Gotta keep ahead of the super quick Honda powered cars like BigAl and Tony G. And Ant in the CRX when we get a box built.

18th June 2008, 09:41 AM	#18 (permalink)
EF_GTI Junior Member 700rpm (Idle) Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 17 Location: Wellington	Re: DEL SOL F20c Track Car Hi, have you spoken to Dave Strong? He built it and knows a bit about making Hondas go fast (his cars first, second and third in kiwi2 last year) and I'm sure he would be OK to help out with what bits are in it etc. Have fun, it is a seriously quick car.

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