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Old 2nd June 2008, 11:11 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Re: Allmotor N/a 1/4 Mile Score Board!

ive seen gumboots stick to the track at meremere. dragmasters 2006. i broke lots of driveshafts!!

you should be able to get your CRX down below the 800kg mark, unless you are running H22a?

edit, just found your other post about your car. under 800 easily achiveable.
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Old 3rd June 2008, 01:02 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Yeah we are aiming for around 850kg with driver so the car will need to be about 760-770kg on its own.I guess a trip to the weigh bridge will tell us if we have suceeded in that.
I think we will do it as the whole car is bare ie, all underseal, carpet, linings, heater ,aircon ,unused wiring and brackets etc.factory seats weigh 19.5kg each and our new ones are just 5.3kg.
lightweight cp035 wheels remove a bit too.
Will be looking for a lightweight bonnet and hatch at some point.
We are running a built 2 litre B18CR engine according to our calcs will be 10kg lighter than a stock B series.

I guess your Ballade would be really light weight?
We had thought about a Ballade but have found them hard to find so the EF it is.

cant wait to start smashin some axles! we are using a ITR S80 box and axles so hopefully they will hold up for a few runs.

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Old 3rd June 2008, 06:47 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Re: Allmotor N/a 1/4 Mile Score Board!

If you use a fairly standard clutch you wont break axles, we have proven they only break from nasty heavy clutches and/or solid centres. I recommend an up-rated pressure plate with an exedy race clutch plate (full face organic). A lot of people get carried away with clutches in FWDs which is totally unnecessary especailly with N/A setups. Over the top clutches just cause havoc with the rest off the drive line and are very hard on your crankshaft thrust bearings. I have got a B18C apart in my garage that has been destroyed from using a super heavy clutch pressure plate.
My car got better 60ft times than the others in our group and never broke any axles/C.Vs.
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Old 8th June 2008, 09:28 AM   #54 (permalink)
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Re: Allmotor N/a 1/4 Mile Score Board!

an EF is only a little bit heavier but the better suspension makes it a lot quicker off the line. if i started all again i would probably go for an EF.

dotto about the clutches above. im up to 6 broken CV's now, 5 of which were done in 3 races with a heavy (1600kg, not pounds) pressure plate and an unsprung center.

How did you take 10kg off the engine?? just exhaust and intake mods?
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Old 8th June 2008, 12:57 PM   #55 (permalink)
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an EF is only a little bit heavier but the better suspension makes it a lot quicker off the line. if i started all again i would probably go for an EF.

dotto about the clutches above. im up to 6 broken CV's now, 5 of which were done in 3 races with a heavy (1600kg, not pounds) pressure plate and an unsprung center.

How did you take 10kg off the engine?? just exhaust and intake mods?
Hey

The weight drop is mainly due to using lighter pistons, rods, Alloy flywheel and intake.Also the crank has been slightly lightened but not to the point of sacrificing strength.

The clutch we are using is 1800lbs and is sprung so shouldnt be too brutal
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Old 8th June 2008, 01:57 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Re: Allmotor N/a 1/4 Mile Score Board!

good clutch disc and light pressure plate is the way to go

only bend axle b4 coz no traction bar or radius rods were fitted
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Old 8th June 2008, 09:49 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Re: Allmotor N/a 1/4 Mile Score Board!

traction bars are the farkin buisness too. i wouldnt even bother racing without them anymore.
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Old 8th June 2008, 11:28 PM   #58 (permalink)
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traction bars are the farkin buisness too. i wouldnt even bother racing without them anymore.
Hey

yeah we have thought about those too, ive seen them on ebay and the summit racing site.
Do you know of any dealers in NZ that sell those??
Also thought of changing the bushes in the front lower arms to the bearing type for better response etc. Any views on that idea??
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Old 9th June 2008, 05:23 AM   #59 (permalink)
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Re: Allmotor N/a 1/4 Mile Score Board!

maybe make a new thread about it?
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Old 8th November 2008, 11:35 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Old 8th November 2008, 11:37 PM   #61 (permalink)
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dang, nicely done^^
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Old 9th November 2008, 12:22 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Re: Allmotor N/a 1/4 Mile Score Board!

hopefully the next meet the other car is ready

and we can borrow some tires from Deanis kekekekeke

u can take the other hoosier.... if you want.. still new !
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Re: Allmotor N/a 1/4 Mile Score Board!

haha go halfs jackie?
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Old 9th November 2008, 02:34 PM   #64 (permalink)
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wet soak alright!

Pitty you cant launch boy!
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Old 9th November 2008, 03:17 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Re: Allmotor N/a 1/4 Mile Score Board!

Gonna be racin the Teg next meet

we might have another set of tyres so there will be one set free ( need to ask the owner first doh.. )
which is same as Tony (Tnt Ek set )

So lonely drag racing this season
not as fun like is use to......
where are all the boys !!!

only manage to get one to blew up on friday...

Not enough Hondas to put on a fight with the Rota......
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Old 9th November 2008, 08:36 PM   #66 (permalink)
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So I could have run a 12.2 in it then?
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Old 24th November 2008, 09:42 AM   #67 (permalink)
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Old 24th November 2008, 10:27 AM   #68 (permalink)
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Old 25th November 2008, 09:57 AM   #69 (permalink)
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Re: Allmotor N/a 1/4 Mile Score Board!

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

to my knowledge thats the fastest NA prelude in nz and the first to crack 13 seconds without one of those crappy turbo things.

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Old 25th November 2008, 10:16 AM   #70 (permalink)
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will get onto updating this today guys
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

to my knowledge thats the fastest NA prelude in nz and the first to crack 13 seconds without one of those crappy turbo things.

good work!
Yea I was pretty happy, not sure how official it is as it wasnt on a proper drag strip but the road was measured to exactly 400m (double checked) and we were using electronic timing set up so should be pretty accurate and it was an official Taranaki car club event. If any thing the time would be a bit high as the road we used is very marginally up hill and we were not allowed to warm tyres up and the start line started cutting up so was a bit tricky getting the car off the line.
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Old 25th November 2008, 11:07 AM   #72 (permalink)
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At least you had some one to clean most the stones off your tires lol.
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Old 25th November 2008, 11:08 AM   #73 (permalink)
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there is another lude that has run 13 I am fairly sure - back in the day
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Re: Allmotor N/a 1/4 Mile Score Board!

yeah grippy grip ran 13.8 with non lemon R motor
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yeah grippy grip ran 13.8 with non lemon R motor
please explain the non lemon R motor bit, or have I missed the point here.
I am beginning to think my R motor is a bit of a lemon as it doesnt really go any better than my old blacktop to be honest.
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