EVLVTC itb track project - new wheels

[b_series_power]

good news!!! link has replaced my ecu with a new integralink so we will see what happens now just got to get the cambelt changed and adjust the cam timing then back on the dyno

[Hayce]

^ sweet good news man :thumbsup:

Surprised the motor went so good for being a tooth out and the timing off...

Those ITB's look purty back there too

[b_series_power]

haha cheers man.. the timing wasnt a tooth out but the the cam gears are goen to get redailed just waiting on the adapter plate

[b_series_power]

car is hopfully goen to be back on the road tomorrow

[b_series_power]

the timing was out by a tooth the cambelt slipped because a bolt had droped down into the cambelt cover and caught on the belt which made it jump a tooth.. the belt has been changed now and timing corrected.. dyno tuning tomorrow

[BTLF3D]

Originally Posted by BTLF3D

tune or timing IMO.

its funny how they didnt check this out tho...

[b_series_power]

who knows.. i just wana hit vtec

[Hayce]

Originally Posted by Hayce

Surprised the motor went so good for being a tooth out and the timing off...

Err they did... I'm not clairvoyant

[b_series_power]

ok well went to tune today and only managed to get 92kw ... so they decided to do another compression test and 240psi right across then he check the throttle bodies to find the butterflys werent fully opening ahhh so after playing around with that they managed to get them to fully open... then they tryed a quick run on the 3/4 throttle tune before they closed up and what do you know 118kw @ the wheels (untuned) .. im so buzzed so tomorrow i shud be seeing the numbers around the 140kw mark .. i may have to call in sick .. also my map sensor isnt guna be plumed in to the itb's either, link recommended it does that sound right???

[b16a2]

then i dont understand how you get high cam without wot.... you said there was definately vtec.. i find this hard to believe.... no vtec would have given throttle not opening properly away after a little investigation

[b_series_power]

Originally Posted by b16a2

then i dont understand how you get high cam without wot.... you said there was definately vtec.. i find this hard to believe.... no vtec would have given throttle not opening properly away after a little investigation

vtec was engauging tho

[d16a7]

dude luke.. my vtec would engage at certain rpm no matter what throttle was...

the ecu sets VTEC at different points under different loads...

[dazznz]

I'm sorry but if has taken them this long to work out that the butterfly's arn't opening then the guys you have tuning your car are a bunch of mupets! It is the first rule of tuning quads is to make sure the open fully. And thats before you even start the motor.

[DVSCVC]

Was at work listening to this thing on the dyno all day today. Sitting in the shitter, it sounded like a buzzy bee

[Hayce]

You can open butterfly's by hand when the motors not on all you like what difference is that going to make? Butterflys are controlled.

There was a number of issues with this thing that have had to be worked through all of which have had to be ironed out. If they hadn't been as through this thread would have been another blown motor thread by now.

Im sure everyone is sick of me defending this place and TBH Im pretty fuckn sick of having to do it when people don't know what they're on about...

[Coupe-R]

you must check if they open fully by throttle operation too, also checking tps voltage for open and closed with ignition on motor off. I don't know the place at all or what has happened here. Just mentioning that for useful info
Confusing thread tho. "its a tooth out, no its not, yes it is blah blah' seems alot of confusion was going on.

[b_series_power]

car is done made 133kws at the wheels but there is still more power to come.. it runs real shitty when you nana it but tpm is goen to do some lite load tuning

[BTLF3D]

can you post up the dyno chart? and how are they going to get more power?

[nva2nd]

Originally Posted by b_series_power

car is done made 133kws at the wheels but there is still more power to come.. it runs real shitty when you nana it but tpm is goen to do some lite load tuning

Car is super duper loud oh and quite quick to

Needs some more time on the dyno though alittle ruff.

[b_series_power]

Originally Posted by BTLF3D

can you post up the dyno chart? and how are they going to get more power?

i will post up the dyno chart when i can find a digital camera.. my car need to be leaned out down low too rich uses so much fuel aye

[[UZNPSI]]

uses to much gas? haha i dunno how bad it is but its never was great on gas lol, ur just lucky ur misses doesnt live on the other side of town man

[EVLTEK FBI AKL]

It is the first rule of tuning quads is to make sure the open fully. And thats before you even start the motor.

That is it right there.

[b16a2]

Originally Posted by EVLTEK

That is it right there.

that said, i wonder how may peoples TB's open fully, people might be surprised

[Coupe-R]

Hehe I always check that in my cars

if its at 133kw and they are doing light load tuning, your peak won't increase (or I doubt it)

133kw will be where it's at peak, area under the graph will improve. GOod to see you got it going!

[Genkei]

btw . . .

dont expect the car will run as nice compare with normal intake under 3500rpm . .

its normal if u floor it and nothing there . . . until u get up in the rev range


if u want the rev to speed up heaps and try to lean it out and give it heaps of timing it will just knocks .. . it doesnt work . . .


if the engine in good nick and cams or that setup should pull 140 area
might need to spend more time on it but all depends . . .

funny that they only find out the tb wasnt fully open . .
dont they tune it by TPS then MAP on link . . . .
either no one checked it tunin b4 they started can just calibrated the sensor as it is


been playing around with different computer to tune up this other car with ITB . . . found something really interesting . ..

its better to tune with TPS and remove the MAP sensor . .

At different condition . ..
as in . . . sea level, weather high or low pressure will put the tune out

but with tps its matter of water temp and intake temp

BUTs with ram air . . . not just a cold air feed . . . a sealed and boxed up unit with air that builds up by driving . . . then it needs a MAP sensor..

There is only few computer that works well with that trick
went is not getting pressured pressure . . it runs on TPS map then if the intake pressure does get charged . . it cross over to the MAP map

And some computer that is marketed that they are made or design to tune ITB doesnt work as they say . . .