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Old 18th September 2007, 08:19 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Heres an idea.....take it back over to speed factor and get them to do the work. I would be that if anyone could find the problem fast it would be them. They get the :thumbsup: in my book
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Old 19th September 2007, 05:56 PM   #27 (permalink)
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link have had a look at the ecu and it seem to be fine.. so if it aint that then wtf??
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Old 19th September 2007, 06:04 PM   #28 (permalink)
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shouldve kept the turbo :ph34r:

83kw thats definately not rite, ur big cam even engaging?

for a motor to make that little power it must be something major...
unless uve got some seriously stuffd comprssion or no big cam then

cant really think why u would loose that much power, did you plug ur standard ecu back in.. any noticible power difference

sounds like ur engine is munted :cry:

does the motor sound normal, sound like its missing or any unusual rattle/vibrations
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Old 19th September 2007, 06:30 PM   #29 (permalink)
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hmmm this would be the sorta stuff id be able to sort out

Ian shuld hurry up and hire me!
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Old 19th September 2007, 06:37 PM   #30 (permalink)
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shouldve kept the turbo :ph34r:

83kw thats definately not rite, ur big cam even engaging?

for a motor to make that little power it must be something major...
unless uve got some seriously stuffd comprssion or no big cam then

cant really think why u would loose that much power, did you plug ur standard ecu back in.. any noticible power difference

sounds like ur engine is munted :cry:

does the motor sound normal, sound like its missing or any unusual rattle/vibrations
everything is sweet with the engine aye and kant run the standard ecu due to the toyota tps.. everything working aye i just dont get it
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Old 19th September 2007, 06:38 PM   #31 (permalink)
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i highly highly doubt there is anything wrong on the inside of the moter, i drove it from my house, to speed factor, they took it out, a few hours later he took him to hams,
come on guys show some nzhondas love and get this going haha
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Old 19th September 2007, 06:38 PM   #32 (permalink)
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hmmm this would be the sorta stuff id be able to sort out

Ian shuld hurry up and hire me!
il be there around 4.30 tomorrow if you would be keen to have a look.. we just dont have the integralink at the moment it still at link
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Old 19th September 2007, 06:40 PM   #33 (permalink)
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]i highly highly doubt there is anything wrong on the inside of the moter, i drove it from my house, to speed factor, they took it out, a few hours later he took him to hams,
come on guys show some nzhondas love and get this going haha
cheers bro stupid frustrating cars
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Old 19th September 2007, 06:54 PM   #34 (permalink)
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]i highly highly doubt there is anything wrong on the inside of the moter, i drove it from my house, to speed factor, they took it out, a few hours later he took him to hams,
come on guys show some nzhondas love and get this going haha
cheers bro stupid frustrating cars
wont be able to do much without the ecu

and besides im working :-S

otherwise id be keen as beans
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Old 19th September 2007, 06:56 PM   #35 (permalink)
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]i highly highly doubt there is anything wrong on the inside of the moter, i drove it from my house, to speed factor, they took it out, a few hours later he took him to hams,
come on guys show some nzhondas love and get this going haha
cheers bro stupid frustrating cars
wont be able to do much without the ecu

and besides im working :-S

otherwise id be keen as beans
oh yeah lol
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Old 19th September 2007, 07:51 PM   #36 (permalink)
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So you changed the motor into another car, same dizzy leads and spark plugs? If not look there.
their could be VERY bad grounding,
Fuel Filter or fuel blocks,
stuffed fuel pump (if lean out is the prob but don't think so here)
Engine timing, and/or stuffed dizzy/coil/ignitor
Slipping clutch?
Not engaging vtec?
Link sensing HEAPS of knock when their infact is none (try disable knock sensor)
(hope your tuner has detonation headphones!!)

These are just a few areas to look for
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Old 19th September 2007, 08:06 PM   #37 (permalink)
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So you changed the motor into another car, same dizzy leads and spark plugs? If not look there.
their could be VERY bad grounding,
Fuel Filter or fuel blocks,
stuffed fuel pump (if lean out is the prob but don't think so here)
Engine timing, and/or stuffed dizzy/coil/ignitor
Slipping clutch?
Not engaging vtec?
Link sensing HEAPS of knock when their infact is none (try disable knock sensor)
(hope your tuner has detonation headphones!!)

These are just a few areas to look for
the only thing it can be out of that whole list is timing but the cam gears are getting redailed tomorrow
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Old 19th September 2007, 08:21 PM   #38 (permalink)
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^^ its not cam gears, even 10deg out wont loose you half your power, u have a very severe problem, best of luck,
all i can say is are you sure you get high cam?
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Old 19th September 2007, 08:26 PM   #39 (permalink)
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yeap sure hits vtec
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Old 20th September 2007, 01:00 AM   #40 (permalink)
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i would lend you my ecu as it will have very similar tune but im in england!

what is the air fuel ratio at?
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Old 20th September 2007, 07:35 AM   #41 (permalink)
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hmmm this would be the sorta stuff id be able to sort out

Ian shuld hurry up and hire me!
haha man you come across like a blow ass online
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Old 20th September 2007, 08:52 AM   #42 (permalink)
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yeap sure hits vtec
how have you tested this?
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Old 20th September 2007, 09:15 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Old 20th September 2007, 09:23 AM   #44 (permalink)
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its probably something simple like the link being in the wrong programme mode, like using MAP instead of TPS to run the car..
there are lots of little settings which can make a big difference to the program, which will make the car run like crap..
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Old 20th September 2007, 10:11 AM   #45 (permalink)
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the only thing it can be out of that whole list is timing but the cam gears are getting redailed tomorrow
So you are 100% postive you have checked EVERYTHING i mentiond on the list.

What about the settings as Gary said? Hence me referring to the knock sensor also, (I.E check all link settings)

Shoulda just run a chipped ECU or hondata for it anyways (easier to tune I reckon!)
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Old 20th September 2007, 11:25 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Sell the motor and put a 13B in there. Then it will be sweet au.
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Old 20th September 2007, 11:29 AM   #47 (permalink)
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dyno
does it have a jump in power on the dyno? when vtec comes on...
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Old 20th September 2007, 12:43 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Not seen the charts, but funny enough when I rang I could hear it in the background on teh dyno and it was certainly on high cam, loud fucker
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Old 20th September 2007, 01:29 PM   #49 (permalink)
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some one mentioned map and tps sensor, i know its uses one of those until 4grand then the other till limiter? could this maybe be the issue?
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Old 20th September 2007, 02:13 PM   #50 (permalink)
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If it's a quad TB setup then yeh it prob will use MAP and TPS setup for the zoning in the ECU
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