My project EG. Brake work - Page 2

Green Machine · 1st May 2007, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Green Machine

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Originally Posted by Ped Rac3r

I might be keen to buy the D16A if you dont put it in your Teg...

Will be taking engine out of teg next weekend so will get some pics etc.

Haha might give you hand if im free and have my car going again.

If your free give me a text. Could do with some help haha. I am not 100% sure on what to do. Just going to learn as I go.

Badcf4: dunno maybe 2ish.

Green Machine · 2nd May 2007, 06:20 PM

searched. couldnt find shit. anyone got pics on how to put in wires for the vtec to work with the civic loom. cheers. Hope i make sense.

Oh yeah me and my father got 3rd in the over 2000cc class in the tauranga rally in the weekend in the rx7!! go us!

[QUIKdc2] · 2nd May 2007, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Green Machine

searched. couldnt find shit. anyone got pics on how to put in wires for the vtec to work with the civic loom. cheers. Hope i make sense.

Oh yeah me and my father got 3rd in the over 2000cc class in the tauranga rally in the weekend in the rx7!! go us!

Use the integra loom and have a good ol' fashioned deloom session!

nva2nd · 2nd May 2007, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by [QUIKdc2

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Originally Posted by Green Machine

searched. couldnt find shit. anyone got pics on how to put in wires for the vtec to work with the civic loom. cheers. Hope i make sense.

Oh yeah me and my father got 3rd in the over 2000cc class in the tauranga rally in the weekend in the rx7!! go us!

Use the integra loom and have a good ol' fashioned deloom session!

Agree it save you alot off wtf is that wire too moments

Green Machine · 3rd May 2007, 04:14 PM

Im going to use the integra loom for the engine side of things but the civic loom in the car. Because the civic isnt vtec I need to know where to wire the vtec solinoid wire too.. etc. Ill figure it out I guess.

Bananaman · 3rd May 2007, 04:20 PM

I can help you here.

Check here for the description of the wires.

http://faq.ef-honda.com/index.php?si...4&id=4&lang=en

AzN_K · 3rd May 2007, 04:31 PM

If you didnt already know, your going to need a run a wire for the knock sensor aswel (from ecu to sensor).

Green Machine · 3rd May 2007, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bananaman

I can help you here.

Check here for the description of the wires.

http://faq.ef-honda.com/index.php?si...4&id=4&lang=en

Depending on ECU this wiring diagram should help too.

Thats what I was after but does anyone have a picture of where the wires go to on the engine?? im not to sure where the knock sensor is. also vtec solinoid and oil presure?

eg69 · 3rd May 2007, 06:47 PM

ummm might be a stupid question, but why the hell are you guys looking at obd0 diagrams for ef/da?

If you're going to link to ffsquad sourced pictures created by the infamous 'katman', may as well go to the source...

http://technet.ff-squad.com/

Bananaman · 4th May 2007, 08:21 AM

Quite right you are, didn't bother looking at the top of that pic.

Theres the knock sensor.

The O2 Sensor is in the exhaust manifold and the Vtec solinoid is on the end of the head (distributor end)

Coupe-R · 4th May 2007, 10:25 AM

Yeh u will need to add wires to 02, knock, vtec soliniod. BUt don't bother with the pressure swtich as ITR motor doesn't run one.

im guessing u using a conversion harness for an ITR ECU?

P.S in those interior pics i can see a cup holder by the gear shifter, push that down and cup holders pop up. Unless for some weird reason yours doesn't have em?

Green Machine · 4th May 2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Coupe-R

Yeh u will need to add wires to 02, knock, vtec soliniod. BUt don't bother with the pressure swtich as ITR motor doesn't run one.

im guessing u using a conversion harness for an ITR ECU?

P.S in those interior pics i can see a cup holder by the gear shifter, push that down and cup holders pop up. Unless for some weird reason yours doesn't have em?

No it doesn't pop up. The girlfriends one has one but mine doesn't.

eg69 · 4th May 2007, 04:20 PM

Yeah some of them look like they have cup holders but they;re just blanked out. Nothing a trip to strongs or pick-a-part shouldnt be able to sort out.

ryan540 · 4th May 2007, 07:59 PM

http://www.c-speedracing.com/howto/b18cswap/swap.php

http://hybrid.honda-perf.org/tech/info.html

Green Machine · 7th May 2007, 05:56 PM

Well hired a engine crane and got both engines out on sunday but as we were lifting the b18cR into the civic oil started pissing out of the lifter and she wouldnt lift no more. So they are fixing it and hopefully will have both engines in next weekend. Exhausts dont bolt up after a test fit but that doesnt bother me as was planning to get a 2.5 inch mandrel made anyway. And will just cut and well the d flange to the integra exhaust so she will bolt up nice and good. Also got the clutch in. Took awhile to line the fucker up as we didnt have a clutch aligning tool. Also found a leak and think its why my car idle was pulsing. Also there is a catch can to the left of the intake manifold. it has a line going from manifold to can and then back to manifold on right side. There is also another line coming out of catch can but havent bothered looking to where this goes.
Thanks for the wiring info everyone.
Oh yeah dr Repower had used some sort of metal glue instead of a gasket between my exhaust and headers is this normal?? heres some pics.

The hole in vac line.

Teg With engine in

Civic Engine in.

Out With The D16a

Nice and bare ready for a good clean.

Extractors 4>1 Could do with a good clean too.

Teg Engine bay rather filthy

Is it normal for a flywheel to look like this with these patches? They from clutch slipping?

My $109 clutch after 6 months driving. Slipped like a bitch from day one.

LSD y0? Could see through to the shaft on other side. Just couldnt be fucked taking it out just too take a straight through pic haha.

So what do you think? Any suggestions etc??

Haden

BTLF3D · 7th May 2007, 06:01 PM

lsd allright :wink: looks good, should go pretty sweet after the b18cr :twisted:

Coupe-R · 8th May 2007, 09:47 PM

WOA iv never seen an engine come out at such a dodgy angle with a crazy array of straps!!!!

About the carbon canister
u put one line into the back on the intake manifold on the passengers side
then one big line into the top of the throttle body. Can't remember where others go off hand but start with that.

about the exhaust gasket. Well at the head there should be a metal gasket for the headers

tianporn · 8th May 2007, 10:23 PM

Your flywheel looks like there were some hotspots?

About the glue between your header collector and exhaust. I have the same. Didn't have the ITR donut so used that glue/sealant thing instead. As long as it doesnt leak then its ok.

[QUIKdc2] · 8th May 2007, 11:14 PM

Loop PS while its out man.

bumpd-EG · 8th May 2007, 11:25 PM

you should take the engines out from the bottom and put it back in from the bottom its so much easier and safer.
when my engine goes in Im gonna have blankets and stuff in the enginebay dont wanna scratch it LOL

badcf4 · 9th May 2007, 07:06 AM

yes......that is an interesting way of getting the engine out

and that flywheel definatly looks like is had some nasty heat on it

looking good tho bro :thumbsup:

Green Machine · 15th May 2007, 06:19 PM

Well have done a little bit now. Should be up and running soon. Took peoples advice and had the fly wheel shaved.

Also these bad boys arrived. After about a 3 week wait. Had ordered buddy club cam gears but after paying for them was told that they werent made yet and would have to wait for 6 weeks.

Also the interior is coming along nicely. Would hate to hear what the old couple who used to own the car would say if they saw it now.

Got both the engines bolted in now although only have the 3 main mounts on as it was getting dark and I was getting lazy.
The civic engine doesnt have much room around it and took ages to get into the civic. But the integra engine only took us about 10 mins to get it in and all lined up.
Will hopefully get the civic running this weekend.
Does anyone know if the d16a civic has the same fuel pump as a dc2 or if the dc2 one is better.

And the integras engine bay now.. Looks sad compared to what it was..

Also found this bar in the integra bolted to the steering rack. Some kind of strut bar. Civic didnt have one so I took it out and bolted it into the civic. Guess it makes the car handle a little better.

Well thats about all for now. Cant wait to have it up and running. Clutch feels like its going to be fun on the street. So hard pushing the pedal in even.

What do you think so far guys?

BTLF3D · 15th May 2007, 06:48 PM

clutch shouldnt be too hard to drive with... where abouts did that brace bolt to?

Bl4ckt0p · 15th May 2007, 06:51 PM

:thumbsup: looking good Haden!!!

[QUIKdc2] · 15th May 2007, 07:06 PM

Hey if you get it going this weekend you can come give me a hand with my car/get on the piss and get nothing done...

2nd May 2007, 06:20 PM	#27 (permalink)
Green Machine Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,907 Location: Te Puke	searched. couldnt find shit. anyone got pics on how to put in wires for the vtec to work with the civic loom. cheers. Hope i make sense. Oh yeah me and my father got 3rd in the over 2000cc class in the tauranga rally in the weekend in the rx7!! go us! __________________ b18cR nzdm eg.. 143kws..not enough... Always for sale at the right price.

3rd May 2007, 04:14 PM	#30 (permalink)
Green Machine Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,907 Location: Te Puke	Im going to use the integra loom for the engine side of things but the civic loom in the car. Because the civic isnt vtec I need to know where to wire the vtec solinoid wire too.. etc. Ill figure it out I guess. __________________ b18cR nzdm eg.. 143kws..not enough... Always for sale at the right price.

3rd May 2007, 04:20 PM	#31 (permalink)
Bananaman Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,110 Location: Foxton Beach	I can help you here. Check here for the description of the wires. http://faq.ef-honda.com/index.php?si...4&id=4&lang=en __________________ It is better to have a Honda and no Money, than it is to have Money and no Honda.

3rd May 2007, 06:47 PM	#34 (permalink)
eg69 Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 862 Location: Outside NZ: Hong Kong	ummm might be a stupid question, but why the hell are you guys looking at obd0 diagrams for ef/da? If you're going to link to ffsquad sourced pictures created by the infamous 'katman', may as well go to the source... http://technet.ff-squad.com/ __________________ I like yellow http://www.allmotorgroup.com

4th May 2007, 08:21 AM	#35 (permalink)
Bananaman Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,110 Location: Foxton Beach	Quite right you are, didn't bother looking at the top of that pic. Theres the knock sensor. The O2 Sensor is in the exhaust manifold and the Vtec solinoid is on the end of the head (distributor end) __________________ It is better to have a Honda and no Money, than it is to have Money and no Honda.

3rd May 2007, 04:31 PM	#32 (permalink)
AzN_K Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 872 Location: Gisborne	If you didnt already know, your going to need a run a wire for the knock sensor aswel (from ecu to sensor).

4th May 2007, 10:25 AM	#36 (permalink)
Coupe-R Senior Member 9,000rpm (S2000 Redline!) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 6,340 Location: Tauranga	Yeh u will need to add wires to 02, knock, vtec soliniod. BUt don't bother with the pressure swtich as ITR motor doesn't run one. im guessing u using a conversion harness for an ITR ECU? P.S in those interior pics i can see a cup holder by the gear shifter, push that down and cup holders pop up. Unless for some weird reason yours doesn't have em?

4th May 2007, 04:20 PM	#38 (permalink)
eg69 Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 862 Location: Outside NZ: Hong Kong	Yeah some of them look like they have cup holders but they;re just blanked out. Nothing a trip to strongs or pick-a-part shouldnt be able to sort out. __________________ I like yellow http://www.allmotorgroup.com

4th May 2007, 07:59 PM	#39 (permalink)
ryan540 Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 585 Location: Dunedin	http://www.c-speedracing.com/howto/b18cswap/swap.php http://hybrid.honda-perf.org/tech/info.html

7th May 2007, 05:56 PM	#40 (permalink)
Green Machine Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,907 Location: Te Puke	Well hired a engine crane and got both engines out on sunday but as we were lifting the b18cR into the civic oil started pissing out of the lifter and she wouldnt lift no more. So they are fixing it and hopefully will have both engines in next weekend. Exhausts dont bolt up after a test fit but that doesnt bother me as was planning to get a 2.5 inch mandrel made anyway. And will just cut and well the d flange to the integra exhaust so she will bolt up nice and good. Also got the clutch in. Took awhile to line the fucker up as we didnt have a clutch aligning tool. Also found a leak and think its why my car idle was pulsing. Also there is a catch can to the left of the intake manifold. it has a line going from manifold to can and then back to manifold on right side. There is also another line coming out of catch can but havent bothered looking to where this goes. Thanks for the wiring info everyone. Oh yeah dr Repower had used some sort of metal glue instead of a gasket between my exhaust and headers is this normal?? heres some pics. The hole in vac line. Teg With engine in Civic Engine in. Out With The D16a Nice and bare ready for a good clean. Extractors 4>1 Could do with a good clean too. Teg Engine bay rather filthy Is it normal for a flywheel to look like this with these patches? They from clutch slipping? My $109 clutch after 6 months driving. Slipped like a bitch from day one. LSD y0? Could see through to the shaft on other side. Just couldnt be fucked taking it out just too take a straight through pic haha. So what do you think? Any suggestions etc?? Haden __________________ b18cR nzdm eg.. 143kws..not enough... Always for sale at the right price.

7th May 2007, 06:01 PM	#41 (permalink)
BTLF3D Senior Member 9,000rpm (S2000 Redline!) Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,592 Location: Levin	lsd allright :wink: looks good, should go pretty sweet after the b18cr :twisted: __________________ Civic Turbo \| 11.8 @ 123mph \| Built B18C \| GT35R \| 319wkw \| 19psi Profile Supreme Antennas Skunk2 M&H Slicks F B I Performance Beyond 2 NZ Performance Speedfactor WorkshopX Speedtech NZ 41.co.nz Collier Motor Engineers Morrel Motors

8th May 2007, 09:47 PM	#42 (permalink)
Coupe-R Senior Member 9,000rpm (S2000 Redline!) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 6,340 Location: Tauranga	WOA iv never seen an engine come out at such a dodgy angle with a crazy array of straps!!!! About the carbon canister u put one line into the back on the intake manifold on the passengers side then one big line into the top of the throttle body. Can't remember where others go off hand but start with that. about the exhaust gasket. Well at the head there should be a metal gasket for the headers

8th May 2007, 10:23 PM	#43 (permalink)
tianporn Senior Member 7,000rpm (Peak Power) Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,648 Location: Auckland	Your flywheel looks like there were some hotspots? About the glue between your header collector and exhaust. I have the same. Didn't have the ITR donut so used that glue/sealant thing instead. As long as it doesnt leak then its ok. __________________ NZH PhotoCrew.

8th May 2007, 11:14 PM	#44 (permalink)
[QUIKdc2] Senior Member 8,000rpm (B Series Redline!) Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,662 Location: Outside NZ: United States	Loop PS while its out man. __________________ Brand New Tein EDFC For Sale, PM me!

8th May 2007, 11:25 PM	#45 (permalink)
bumpd-EG Senior Member 4,000rpm (Taxi Drag) Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 594 Location: Auckland	you should take the engines out from the bottom and put it back in from the bottom its so much easier and safer. when my engine goes in Im gonna have blankets and stuff in the enginebay dont wanna scratch it LOL __________________ 1996 Integra Type R B18CR 1993 Civic Sedan B18C

9th May 2007, 07:06 AM	#46 (permalink)
badcf4 Senior Member 11,000rpm (Spoon B16B!!) Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,341 Location: Auckland	yes......that is an interesting way of getting the engine out and that flywheel definatly looks like is had some nasty heat on it looking good tho bro :thumbsup: __________________ 9/11 was an elaborate hoax...........yea right

15th May 2007, 06:19 PM	#47 (permalink)
Green Machine Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,907 Location: Te Puke	Well have done a little bit now. Should be up and running soon. Took peoples advice and had the fly wheel shaved. Also these bad boys arrived. After about a 3 week wait. Had ordered buddy club cam gears but after paying for them was told that they werent made yet and would have to wait for 6 weeks. Also the interior is coming along nicely. Would hate to hear what the old couple who used to own the car would say if they saw it now. Got both the engines bolted in now although only have the 3 main mounts on as it was getting dark and I was getting lazy. The civic engine doesnt have much room around it and took ages to get into the civic. But the integra engine only took us about 10 mins to get it in and all lined up. Will hopefully get the civic running this weekend. Does anyone know if the d16a civic has the same fuel pump as a dc2 or if the dc2 one is better. And the integras engine bay now.. Looks sad compared to what it was.. Also found this bar in the integra bolted to the steering rack. Some kind of strut bar. Civic didnt have one so I took it out and bolted it into the civic. Guess it makes the car handle a little better. Well thats about all for now. Cant wait to have it up and running. Clutch feels like its going to be fun on the street. So hard pushing the pedal in even. What do you think so far guys? __________________ b18cR nzdm eg.. 143kws..not enough... Always for sale at the right price.

15th May 2007, 06:48 PM	#48 (permalink)
BTLF3D Senior Member 9,000rpm (S2000 Redline!) Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,592 Location: Levin	clutch shouldnt be too hard to drive with... where abouts did that brace bolt to? __________________ Civic Turbo \| 11.8 @ 123mph \| Built B18C \| GT35R \| 319wkw \| 19psi Profile Supreme Antennas Skunk2 M&H Slicks F B I Performance Beyond 2 NZ Performance Speedfactor WorkshopX Speedtech NZ 41.co.nz Collier Motor Engineers Morrel Motors

15th May 2007, 06:51 PM	#49 (permalink)
Bl4ckt0p Senior Member 6,000rpm (Max Torque) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,687 Location: Palmerston North	:thumbsup: looking good Haden!!!

15th May 2007, 07:06 PM	#50 (permalink)
[QUIKdc2] Senior Member 8,000rpm (B Series Redline!) Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,662 Location: Outside NZ: United States	Hey if you get it going this weekend you can come give me a hand with my car/get on the piss and get nothing done... __________________ Brand New Tein EDFC For Sale, PM me!

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