turbo my torneo : UPDATED!! pics and story page 11

[itekdu]

I've already got :
600x260x90 intercooler
360x175x50 oil cooler and filter relocation kit
38mm turbosmart wastegate
greddy type R BOV
greddy profec b spec 2 boost controller
500hp walbro fuel pump (will be used as lifter pump)
MSD plug leads
Sard 720cc injectors
Sard FPR
h22a block
Darton "mids" upsidedown sleeves
Garret gt35/40 1.06AR turbo
CP Forged pistons
Manly pro series rods
Skunk 2 oversized valves/valve springs/titanum retainers/cam gears/Pro series intake manifold
Boomslang OBD1 conversion harness
Bosch "044" fuel pump
Cometic 1.5mm steel head gasket
AEM fuel rail
Autometer "cobalt" series boost, oil press and water temp gauges
ARP head studs
Blox 76mm throttle body
Custom 3.5 odd kg flywheel
Tilton OG-ll clutch
Innovative engine mounts (75A urethane)



Any ideas for help would be appreciated

[phonix]

Originally Posted by ItekdU

Right so im gonna stop beating 'round the bush, and just create one single topic for it... im gonna go for a turbo.

There's some things i've already got, pretty much the basics, bought a
600x260x90 intercooler, 38mm turbosmart wastegate, greddy type R BOV, greddy profec b spec 2 boost controller, 500hp walbro fuel pump, and MSD plug leads. also waiting on some sard 720cc injectors. got a mate in hams thats hopefully getting round to sorting out a turbo as well. looking at chrome for the ecu.

Now I need some help with the harder stuff. Pistons/rods/rings, have a mate looking into cp's for me, any other ideas? aiming for about 9.0:1 comp. headgasket, apparently there's someone that can custom them?? cams/cam gears/valves/valve springs, guessing cam gears are fairly well personal pref, wat about the rest?

Yep, thats pretty much all i've thought of so far, anything ive missed? not keen to pay through the nose either BTW, if someone can hook me up with the deals, would be so stoked!

Crome will require you to go back to OBD1 assuming you are currently OBD2, so look into finding a OBD1 ECU (not as easy as it sounds) and a conversion harness.

Manifold: Log/Equal Length Tubular/Top mount style. Also are you going to import one or have one custom made? Will probably struggle to get a decent one "off the shelf" in NZ.

Make sure you PCV setup is sorted to evacuate blow-by. Threads on H-T bout this.

Oil lines/Coolant lines. Earls fittings. Don't skimp on this, will bite you on the ass if you go cheap.

OEM headgasket will do the trick, if you wanna upgrade can always go for a cometic multi-layer steel gasket. If your going to that trouble should definitely throw some ARP head studs in the mix.

A few gauges to monitor whats going on, boost/oil temp/water temp/EGT.

Has cam-belt, water pump etc been changed? If your in there doing pistons etc it would probably pay to change these at the same time.

I could keep rambling but I'm sure others will add, sorry I can't help with pistons/rods/valvetrain, I only know B series :ph34r:

[itekdu]

yeah, sorry, missed heaps of shit that I asked the grease monkey to get arp studs, some brand of race bearings, and doin cam belt, water/oil pumps at same time... also i missed the gauges i bought, boost, oil press, water temp, all cobalt series...no doubt will be custom mani, as im looking at a decent size turbo (gt35). also i've been looking for info on obd2 to obd1 swaps, but cant find any, is ht the place to go?

cheers for ya help!

[BTLF3D]

have you allready got the injectors coming? if not give me a pm and ill give you a price.

[itekdu]

still waiting on a price, but havent seen another price on ANYTHING come close to bindons yet :wink: think cost minus GST

[BTLF3D]

Originally Posted by ItekdU

still waiting on a price, but havent seen another price on ANYTHING come close to bindons yet :wink: think cost minus GST

pm me with the price and ill see what i can do

[phonix]

Originally Posted by ItekdU

...also i've been looking for info on obd2 to obd1 swaps, but cant find any, is ht the place to go?

http://www.fortyone.co.nz/parts/show...20Harness.html

Talk to your Crome tuner/email Mac to check if there is anything else required.

[itekdu]

cheers! since you seem to know your stuff, do you reckon id have obd2a or b?

[hontegra]

hey BTLF3D can you get in some 550cc injectors?

sorry to hijack ops:

[americ_ian]

Originally Posted by ItekdU

cheers! since you seem to know your stuff, do you reckon id have obd2a or b?

i had my 720s up for sale a while back but no offers
going for full build aye?

good luck :wink:
PS ur turbo is small :wink:

[BTLF3D]

Originally Posted by hontegra

hey BTLF3D can you get in some 550cc injectors?

sorry to hijack ops:

pm'd

[Horny_Devil]

y so low with the compression? its gonna make it sluggish off boost

[americ_ian]

Originally Posted by Horny_Devil

y so low with the compression? its gonna make it sluggish off boost

um to make power safely and easily and reliably

jase, u have some funny questions sometimes

[Horny_Devil]

thats not true, if u have a good tuner u can run higher compression levels safely and u end up making more power from it aswell.

the motor is only as safe as the tune.

and how is it a funny question ian?

[Moclov]

Originally Posted by Horny_Devil

thats not true, if u have a good tuner u can run higher compression levels safely and u end up making more power from it aswell.

the motor is only as safe as the tune.

and how is it a funny question ian?

Why do all factory turbo engines run low compression then?

[americ_ian]

Originally Posted by Horny_Devil

thats not true, if u have a good tuner u can run higher compression levels safely and u end up making more power from it aswell.

the motor is only as safe as the tune.

and how is it a funny question ian?

u tried to tune a 12.5:1 CR with 25psi with a gt35R on pump gas? dont think so

sure i work ona 2000hp dragster , it has 11:1CR and runs 40psi, but when sumthing goes a lil wrong, it blows quickly

and we have to rebuild the thing once every drag event

where as a low comp setup wil be able to take a lil lean/rich/ agresive timing here and there

[BTLF3D]

that isnt that lower compression, i run that on a b18c and off boost of feels like my old b16a off boost, but on boost its a whole different story.
9.0:1 CR FTW :!:

+ the F20b (is that right lol?) will still have quite a bit of torque.

[americ_ian]

low compression
- more timing
- more boost
- more lag
- less efficient hp
- more room for error

high compression
-less timing
-less boost
-quicker spool
-more efficient power
- requires more precise tuning


thanks 9:1 is perfect,
i might goto a 9.8:1 one day tho, but if i decided to sell the car, id keep it at 9:1

[tarmac-]

correcto.

[Hayce]

Wow the yanks on the money for once :thumbsup:

[itekdu]

Originally Posted by americ_ian

i had my 720s up for sale a while back but no offers
going for full build aye?

good luck :wink:
PS ur turbo is small :wink:

hopefully I can get my ass into gear and do it sometime might be getting 1000's yet :wink: so is my ecu obd2a or obd2b? or where on the comp do I look to find out?

[itekdu]

so im guessing that when I get an OBD1 conversion harness, *ANY* OBD1 computer will fit?

[americ_ian]

my vote would be to get a b18c teg of b16a ecu
which i believe is a p30 and a p72
but u can also use a po8 and a few other sohc vtec ecus
but require more work to chip etc etc

[itekdu]

oh yea, have heard the p30 is the better one of the two aye

put my fuel pump in today...and think I have a h22 plenum and t/b lined up (cheers sir-accord-t!) has anyone got an iacv and plug lying around?

Edit (04/09): bought the H22 plenum, throttle body and iacv, now just need a plug to go into it, and an ecu and harness!