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    Looking to turbo my ef civic!

    Hi there I have recently bought an 89 ef civic and im looking for any help on a possible b16a conversion with a safe turbo setup as I have seen the high power N/A motors and was not a fan. Any help would be greatly appreciated, especially any cert trouble I might run into.

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    Re: Looking to turbo my ef civic!

    First off,
    Whats in it now and is it injected?

    Next whats your budget?

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    Re: Looking to turbo my ef civic!

    tried searching, its been covered before and there are mnay threads on this topic with lots of helpful info
    Quote Originally Posted by permaisuri View Post
    ooh yeah, i read it differently.... sorry, im asian with 4 eyes... shouldve read better....

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    Re: Looking to turbo my ef civic!

    So You Want to Turbo Your Honda? read on.



    I hope your civic isn't a carby model. Converting an EG to vtec is 10 times easier.

    Why an EF anyway?

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    Re: Looking to turbo my ef civic!

    There's a turbo EF9 (B16A) Civic on Trade Me at the moment. It would be a lot cheaper to buy that than to start from scratch on yours.
    efsi: What's wrong with a 4AGE? They're good engines
    spooner: They have a flat spot from 0 to 8000rpm.

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    Re: Looking to turbo my ef civic!

    I want to build my own cars never buy someone elses project that dosn't appeal to me. Gudgen I did read that thanks and it gave me a lot of help with what Im going to need. Also i got an EF because I hate the EG shape and it was cheap at the time. I have a friend who had the same model with a non turbo b16a and it was very tidy and reliable so I have faith its possible. Money wise I am still deciding on what to do with the engine so am saving couple hundred a week for this.

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    Re: Looking to turbo my ef civic!

    Sorry didnt see the reply button so just posted at the bottom. It is a carby motor and my budget will depend on what i decide to do with the motor as I can save slowly if need be for better parts.

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    Re: Looking to turbo my ef civic!

    so much fuc*ing round with a carby model just flick it and buy a injected model
    kunt dont eat grass

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    Re: Looking to turbo my ef civic!

    What "help" do you need??

    Regarding a cert, yes you will require one. What else do you need to know? Give us more info

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    Re: Looking to turbo my ef civic!

    As said don't waste your time with a carby model unless your wanting to turn it into a dedicated track car and run a fuel cell and larger fuel lines ect.
    Sell it and buy one with a b16a already in it then turbo it.
    But IMO a ZC can be just as much fun, Just spend the money you would swapping the engine on Rods, pistons, rebuild and quality turbo parts and it would be much better/reliable then a budget b16a turbo.


    Budget wise youll be looking at:
    Using current carby car and converting + vtec converting = 5K
    Using already injected non vtec and converting to vtec = 4K
    Using already injected and already vtec = 3K
    Using already injected non vtec and not converting, Rods/pistons = 2.8K
    Using already injected non vtec and not converting, = 2K

    Then you need extra for cert and what ever needs to be fixed for cert.
    Those prices are factoring in what Id be charging to tune it. Most likely it would cost more to be tuned since your in Dunedin and I dont know of any one that tunes down there so cant say there prices.

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    Re: Looking to turbo my ef civic!

    The two options for tuning in Dunedin seem to be APET and Turboshop. Not sure on prices sorry.
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    Re: Looking to turbo my ef civic!

    I'd take those price figures bmgjet has posted and near double them. Sure it's possible to do it on those figures... but all the little things add up stupidly quick!

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    Re: Looking to turbo my ef civic!

    Ive got nealy everthing for you to do it check the link.

    http://nzhondas.com/engine-gearbox/1...rbo-parts.html
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    Re: Looking to turbo my ef civic!

    I have been offered a zc motor which is forged and Im not too bothered on the vtec so Im looking into that. Im keeping the shell guys I like the shape much more then the eg and I have seen civics in this model with b16a motors in them before, as these are the things im looking to find out at the moment.

    As for cert was just curious what would need done so dont have to go back. I wont be tuning in Dunedin it will be Christchurch, maybe NZEFI or SPEC.
    Thanks a lot for your post the zc is looking like a more appealing option.

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    Re: Looking to turbo my ef civic!

    The ZC would be about a brazillian times better than the carb'd engine, but you still need to look at all the other things like brake upgrades. Having owned a carb'd EF I can tell you the stoppers on them are pooooooz compared to a 4 wheel disc setup.
    Bloody Volvo driver.

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    Re: Looking to turbo my ef civic!

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    there is more aftermarket parts for the b series ds you can have alot of fun with and make realy good power

    where are you getting the forged engine from ? recipts or super cowboy build ?
    kunt dont eat grass

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    Re: Looking to turbo my ef civic!

    I'm going to be Mr Negative Trivium here, but in so many of these cases the reason said person buys a carbie EF is because they have feck all money to spend. So being able to spend the kind of money needed to turbo this car is going to make things hard. If you can save a bit every week thats sweet, but to B + T swap a carbed civic, and make it reliable, then you'd be looking at 5k plus..... Thats a lot of money to throw at a $1500 car

    As well as the b16a + all the turbo bits, you'll need a brake upgrade. Fuel lines and tank from an injected civic. A cert (around $400) and tuning ($400+).

    Personally I'd say what I always say in these situations. Price it out, save all the money up, then see if you still want to go ahead with it.
    Last edited by Trivium; 9th May 2012 at 04:32 PM.

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    Re: Looking to turbo my ef civic!

    Just because I bought a car not worth thousands does not make it worth nothing. I plan on doing this because Ive seen it done and I know im capable of doing it through my resources. The car will have an EFI motor in it not a carby the zc comes in twin came 1600 too. As for the motor iv been offered have asked for recipts on all work done and wont be touching it otherwise. I just want to turbo my little EF because they look AMAZING when someone has spent a little money on them, and im not at all bothered on peoples opinions on me or the car this is about how to build a safe reliable turbo and im fully aware of the upgrades I will need to do, but brakes, suspension, wheels tyres are all getting done before engine goes in.

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    Re: Looking to turbo my ef civic!

    If it's a ef sedan carby I wouldn't mind swapping you my ef sedan zc turbo???????

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    Re: Looking to turbo my ef civic!

    OP: Nobody's saying it's not worth doing, only that there are much cheaper ways of going about it. But hey, it's your car, so if you want to convert your carbied EF (that's probably stock as a rock) to a turbocharged EFI machine, go for gold. Just don't be surprised when:

    a) It's a helluva lot more work than starting with a car that's already fuel injected (along with better brakes, interior, etc etc); and
    b) It's quite the expensive and time consuming proposition.

    People here have seen similar things done or done it themselves. The final cost and time cost (no small thing) often makes something like buying a stock standard Integra Type R a much cheaper option, in the long term. Just sayin'.
    efsi: What's wrong with a 4AGE? They're good engines
    spooner: They have a flat spot from 0 to 8000rpm.

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    Re: Looking to turbo my ef civic!

    Mod for mod, the B16a gives you more over a ZC. There is a lot of fun in turbo'ing a Honda. There is NO fun is converting an EF from carb to injected. If you do do it, the easiest way to do it is to have a complete injected shell to transfer everything.

    I prefer the facelift EF over the pre-facelift. The wrap around indicators, the inverted bonnet bulge, the darker tail lamps, the better coloured and shaped interior. It really is worth an extra grand to have all those things to start with.

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    Re: Looking to turbo my ef civic!

    Quote Originally Posted by smashYOU View Post
    If it's a ef sedan carby I wouldn't mind swapping you my ef sedan zc turbo???????
    just sold one of theese lol

    back on topic go for gold
    kunt dont eat grass

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    Re: Looking to turbo my ef civic!

    Everyone is telling me the same thing over and over.
    I KNOW I HAVE TO CONVERT TO EFI, and im fully capable of doing it with the friends and reasources I have here so that is not going to be an issue.
    Secondly i have 3 friends with type R's and one is turbo. He has spent double what my friend who went N/A on his Type R has spent and i have NO intentions on paying for anything me and my qualified friends can do. This is the reason i bought a cheap car, to learn to do it myself. Or i would not have bought a Honda in the first place if I wanted to drag 300hp by winding up the boost like every other idiot.
    If anyone has anything genuine to offer that hasnt been said would be much appreciated otherwise thanks everyone for your advice.

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    Re: Looking to turbo my ef civic!

    iv got an efi tank a zc loom and a disk brake rear end + a knocky dohc zc and some other stuff for an ef hatch and some crx stuff to.
    also a vf10 subie churbro and evo intercooler.

    PM me if your keen and we'll cut a deal

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    Re: Looking to turbo my ef civic!

    Buy good parts and do it once and do it right, I did it, didn't have to convert to efi though but I turbo'd my DA and it cost a lot, and at the moment I have nothing to show for it because I didn't buy quality parts so I pulled it apart and started again, should've just burnt the few grand I spent. Do what you want though mate and dont let people put you off but don't be that guy who doesn't finish it and ends up parting it out or selling it unfinished because it cost more than you wanted to spend

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