Thread: Hydraulic Handbrakes.

Hope this is the right section.

My question is are these road legal, as in can I get it certed and it will be road legal? I really want to use one in my car.

I did have a quick search and did read some stuff, but from people were not positive. But they said you might need a motorsport authority card. If that is ture I have some futher questions.

Cheers

EDIT: Silly me, found it on LVVTA. Ive got a few questions about Motorsport licences (I cant get any info from website as the website is down for maintenance)

Does motorsport licences mean logbook as well? and do these need to be filled in everytime you drive the car or just motorsport events? What counts as a motorsport event? Public track days?

If the LVVTA say you need an authority card, here's what you need to do:

Join a local motorsport club, any one will do so long as it's affilliated.
Have your car tech inspected and purchase a log book (can't have an auth card without a log book)
Attend two motorsport events, these range from hill climbs, to track days to gymkhanas (no, not doing helis in a carpark while someone's yelling yeah rip that shit niggah)

I don't know if you require a cert for this, it's a change to the OEM braking system but it's easy to see how it's considered a purpose built racecar modification so it might slip under the wof radar.

Hydrolic handbrakes aren't worth it for street. You cant park on hills, like at all. Expansion of fluids when warm etc, when you stop and rip the handbrake off the pressure slowly goes down and then you start moving.

They should only be for purpose built race cars only for autocross and dirfs.

^^ As SiRge said, no good for street use. You would need blocks to put in front / back of your wheels to stop the car rolling away after the pressure drops.
Only question I have is, why would you need a Hydraulic Handbrake if youre not using it for competition anyways??
Not as though youre gonna be pulling hand brake slides into parking spaces right?

Logbook + Authority Card (car must meet Schedule A requirements) + license + MSNZ affiliated club membership.

MSNZ sanctioned events count, so that means events run by your local car club (i.e. the one with which you hold the membership). Public track days do not.

Like mentioned above, don't bother if it's just for a road car.

Just run hydro and factory . Even by msnz standards you need to have two seperate braking systems (factory hydro lines + cable hand brakes). So technically if you remove your cable hand brake and run an inline hydraulic hand brake it isn't legal for Motorsport events .

Why do you really want to have one? Looks cool?

He's building a road legal drift car. Look on his blog

Alright, well you need both as mentioned.

I can assure you hori dori and generic track days don't mean much in your log book haha . Have you tried your factory hand brake for what you intend on using it for? You might find fresh cables and a soft grippy pad plus a Cusco stylz ebrake button are all you need .

Originally Posted by tysonzane

Just run hydro and factory . Even by msnz standards you need to have two seperate braking systems (factory hydro lines + cable hand brakes). So technically if you remove your cable hand brake and run an inline hydraulic hand brake it isn't legal for Motorsport events .

You sure about that? Ive seen a hell of a lot of dedicated circuit cars without any handbrake. My car even only has a hydro system. If msnz standards said it needed 2 seperate braking systems surely they would inforce it for saftey reason.
Wheres Leon?

Guy i know only has hydraulic handbrake, gets wofs etc... just cant park on hills lol

Originally Posted by Built4Speed

You sure about that? Ive seen a hell of a lot of dedicated circuit cars without any handbrake. My car even only has a hydro system. If msnz standards said it needed 2 seperate braking systems surely they would inforce it for saftey reason.

Could be those blurry lines between purpose built and dedicated race car. You biult it as a dedicated car, but tell MSNZ it's a purpose built, a lot of the rules can be side-stepped to a certain degree.

Originally Posted by Built4Speed

Wheres Leon?

Probably on holiday, or buying a new car, or both

This is true but my car is still road legal if i ever bothered to get a wof for it. Its fully certed.

Originally Posted by Built4Speed

You sure about that? Ive seen a hell of a lot of dedicated circuit cars without any handbrake. My car even only has a hydro system. If msnz standards said it needed 2 seperate braking systems surely they would inforce it for saftey reason.
Wheres Leon?

Hydro systems have 2 separate fluid circuits which meets the criteria for MSNZ Schedule A. OEM systems depend on the manufacturer but are most often split diagonal systems (allows some force on the front and some on the rear if either circuit fails) and most aftermarket systems e.g. Wilwood/Tilton etc are separate circuits between front and rear.

Why it is mandatory for schedule A is that if in the event you have a leak in one system and you go to brake pedal, you have 'some' braking available to you.

I run a hydraulic handbrake in my competition car and is just another item to add to the authority card for road usage (which is never these days) oh and an extra warning sticker to the dashboard