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Rear sway bar issues, Help?

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My new exhaust arrived earlier this week so I had the civic taken down to the guys at STM to have it fitted. With their promotion of an hours free labour and their knowledge of my car, I decided they may as well get it done while I'm stuck at work!

Everything went nice and smoothly when it came to removing the old exhaust and fitting up the new one. The Buddyclub system was slightly too short but this was an easy enough fix!

The issue came with the aftermarket rear sway bar. With the factory system, the exhaust runs above the sway bar whereas with the previous undertank, it ran underneath. With the exhaust all bolted up and in the OEM position, the sway bar can't be pushed up far enough to reach it's bolting points.]

Becaaue of this, I picked up a factory sway bar from Strongs and took it down. It looks like it could fit properly but the linkages that the factory one uses differs from what's on at the moment. Has anyone encountered the same problem with an EG? Is there a rear sway bar that is made to clear alot easier?

In more positive news, I ended up putting my P1's back on to see what the ride was like with the new height and it looks great. There is a bit of gaurd rubbing on the back when going over rough roads and I get a bit of rub at the front when cornering hard left but this will be fixed easy enough when I get adjustable camber arms.

If anyone has any advice for the rear sway bar, I'm keen to hear! Need to get this fixed ASAP. I am considering taking the car away without the sway bar fitted for the next couple of days as one of the guys thinks that with the height and stiffness of my car, it should still be easily driveable under normal conditions... for now anyways!

Will update blog with photos today / tomorrow hopefully
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  1. Snapfrozen's Avatar
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    I ran my exhaust over the rear sway, it was a mission bolting up as it was... Will see if I can get pics for you
  2. Plague's Avatar
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    What rear sway bar are you running? I have an ASR 24mm bar on with stock exhaust piping and there were no clearance issues. See pic.

  3. Horny_Devil's Avatar
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    My exhaust was custom but my factory one went over it no problems before i swapped it out.

    got pics?
  4. Snapfrozen's Avatar
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    Mine was the same as the above pic. You dont have the sway bar upside down do you?
  5. nzjono's Avatar
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    Didn't get a chance to pick it up today so will collect tomorrow morning and take some photos
  6. g0at's Avatar
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    I'm not running a rear sway bar in my daily DC2 currently, as I bought it as a rolling shell and the ITR sway bar was being held on by big spoongy rubber grommets and weak ass mounts. No issues daily driving and a little spirited.
  7. Snapfrozen's Avatar
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    The rear sway was the difference between night and day for me on the track. Made the car feel like it was born to steer properly
  8. g0at's Avatar
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    I'm not saying they don't make a massive difference to handling, just that the car won't fall apart if you're missing the rear sway bar for a few days till you get it sorted.
  9. Plague's Avatar
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    g0at is right. Many budget car's don't even come with rear sway bars and they are ok on the road.
  10. nzjono's Avatar
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    Oh k, collected the civic this morning from STM. First thing I noticed was that the silencer that came with the system had been fitted on the rear muffler...With the tune I am currently running, it felt a little sluggish so when I got the car back to work, I decided to remove the silencer and go for a drive... It was LOUD, way to loud!

    Looks like I'll have to keep the silencer in and have the tune adjusted to suit Hoping that it doesn't affect the performance too much having it in there.

    Also, in regards to the sway bar, below is a photo of both the aftermarket part I was running and also a factory piece I am borrowing from Strongs. The factory piece is actually longer which makes me wonder if my current sway bar is right...



    Also, here's how the rear section loops up which is blocking the rear sway bar from bolting up



    Cheers for the comments so far guys
  11. Horny_Devil's Avatar
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    what exhaust is it? i wouldnt be retuning it with the silencer in i would be putting more resos in it. im pretty sure you would end up with more power that way and it would be quieter.

    is it your end links that are the problem? as my end links look different to yours

    hard to see my mine look like this
    http://www.georgebelton.com/6g.civic...itr.001_th.jpg
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    ill find a pic of my setup when im home
  12. nzjono's Avatar
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    Thanks Jase, yeah it's the Buddyclub Racing Spec III Pro exhaust. Yeah putting a reso in would definitely be the way to go I think.. would shut it up a bit and slow nicer than having a baffle in the rear muffler huh...

    The end links were the issue with fitting the factory sway bar on instead of the aftermarket as they had different fittings
  13. da6boy's Avatar
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    you would think a buddy club spec III wouldnt be that loud thats silly of them ..get one of the new master flow reso they free flow
  14. nzjono's Avatar
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    Yeah, will hopefully get a resonator on Monday. Was pissed with how loud it was without the baffle!
  15. da6boy's Avatar
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    i bet you were and WOW that is way to close to where the sway bar bolts up to.. this is where mine gose way away from where the bar bolts to
    http://iforce.co.nz/i/gofcph04.icv.jpg
  16. Horny_Devil's Avatar
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    lol you didn't do any research on the forum before buying the exhaust did you cannon mufflers will always be louder that other types

    here is coupe-r's EG coupe with the Spec 3 pro exhaust and sway bar, they are the end links im using on mine

  17. nzjono's Avatar
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    Haha fair enough call Jase, to be honest I didn't do ALOT of research when it came to upgrading the exhaust. It needed to be 2.5" which would suit the Bisi manifold and I wanted something that followed the factory route so that it wasn't hanging down and catching on everything. The decision ended up being between Buddyclub and Skunk2 as pretty much all of the Japanese brands don't offer exhausts bigger than 2 1/4 inch and I was not going up to 3". I went with Buddyclub as I've heard good things about their systems and figured there was no way it could be louder than what I originally had... hmmmm

    Obviously I realised that this style off rear muffler is always going to make a decent amount of sound but it's even louder than my straight through system I had which had an even larger cannon hanging off the end of it.

    I'm just driving it with the baffle in over the weekend and will be looking into a decent high flow resonator early next week then will have it inspected on the dyno just to ensure everything is working as it should and that no power has disappeared!

    In regards to the sway bar, looks like the one i've been using should do the trick if I can find some different end links that fit which enable a bit more space.
  18. Horny_Devil's Avatar
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    Here is mine, mine was a custom made pitstop exhaust. Im running a tanabe 21mm sway bar with Stock EG endlinks. my muffler is very close to the RTA, but the outlet is right by the pivot point on the chassis so it keeps the exhaust pipe high.

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    Here is the pic of yours where i think its hitting, its due to how the exhaust is sitting on the car. looks like you may need to extend it out a little further to make it clear
  19. Snapfrozen's Avatar
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    Thought of adding about 1-2 inches of piping at the C pipe before the LCA to lengthen the exhaust? Should clear then
  20. nzjono's Avatar
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    What will probably end up happening is when I get a coby put into the exhaust, I'll make the section of piping cut out just a bit smaller than the coby so that it extends it that way.. Will see if it'd work before I do it though!
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